Not everyone is trying to win 500 mile races whether you choose to believe it or not. You will not find anywhere near the same amount of champion sprint pigeons up to 250 300 miles that were unraced as you will 500 plus You have people on this thread who advocate no basket training for young birds before a race trying to tell the fancy we dont need yb racing Yes Walter you have great success racing unraced latebreds but I can guarantee those same latebreds are trained harder than some people race their young birds