dont i know it joe there will be a lot of vomit to come m8 if jim and i have a say in it im just glad my distance birds can hold there own in a sprint race when trained right ive got 60 birds for raceing this year just wait till jim gets a team about him and ill make sure he does but i know its just me there trying to wind up as nothing was said when members in the club were sending 80 and 100 birds but then again they did not win to offen ive already had to explain to jim how some doo men think if you cant beat them have an excuse or try to discredit the winner sad fact to have to tell a novice and if truth be told my pigeon that was 6th in the club was my 18th pigeon but its in the clock that counts roll on next week sticks and stones and these are just the birds that were sick last year