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welcome back welcome home you been gone oh so long have a safe trip home lol

i have asked for this thread to be removed you can get a paper made up for a fiver easy enough to do but non the less should be taken off totally wrong this crap

take them all to liverpool and make them support them they soon behave lol

was i still drunk or was it your driving lol

should have seen the others he got aswell should stay alert lol

are these not based on win moens dogeon could you help here i think they are

remember Mick vallance and me got one of you kipping looks like a beached whale can always put that one up lol

i could not give a toss i got an ar$e that would make Mick a face lol

pull them all out build a big wall round it let no one in or oot and they can kill each other untill their hearts content in other words leave them to F each other

jesus Mick can see you was night shift missed your beauty sleepe again

he never posted it he is on his way to me with doos some one at it again just take it off the guys not on to defend himself

Tam i can bite when i want but most times i just kid on thats 25 years as a union rep training and 15 of them as F O C some times get anoyed but never wound up i have a bad habbit of ordering things like wheelchairs for people when i do get anoyed in fact there post goes up as they get all the free trials and offers lol

thanks mate i really apreciate that not a prob Tam and me just having a wee discusion not a prob he just offered to take me on the drink in blackpool friday night lol

well Tam you got them from a small stud who dont race and i never seen breeding on a ped win a race before so he must have bought them in the mind boggles not having a pop the stud they come from dont race is that not right

yes they are tam they are being tested and winning well in france holland germany and belguim there aint many here yet and most have kept them to breed a team off so there we have it as you say i have other familys aswell but they all will get a fair crack of the whip a lot said the hermans would do nowt when i brought them in how wrong they where they done everything asked of them as hopefully these will

Tam mate no disrespect meant but please answer did your birds not come from a small stud that dont race or some of your birds JVB i believe they never raced their stock is unproven and they used to start at £75 a pop thats what i heard but you a good fancier so must have done what i done bought for potencial and remember some y/ings and y/bs raced where as yours come from a loft that does not race any just buys from other stud

what i am saying is van loon has not raced for many years remember he had a clearence sale a number of years ago these birds are off proven producers thats all i am saying you wont get nothing off massa from proven producers thats all i am saying and they are winning for others it is up to the guys who have them to get the best out of them thats the point i am making there are auction sales where birds will make big prices and these guys arnt top men or any thing like it when in holland 1 guys loft we where in NOT TO BUY JUST VISIT his best y/b was a 10euro lier market so let the buyers beware not everything that glstens is gold

got to be sencable sometimes lol

both that blacks are with me Tam i posted earlier where they are winning but remember not many tried yet in this country but still high open poition over 500mls and high y/b nat prize in wales remember van loon sells birds but never raced for years and i could name a lot of big names not racing just selling now but quality in right hands will perform as well you know

yes they a matched pair Tam you can guess where they are going alot tried to buy them but Ronny let me Have them after Mick told him i really liked them so its down to Mick that i got them

he does fly some yearlings Tam but due to work commitments is limited as you say they do look the part so the potencial is there its up to the ones who have them to get the best out of them they are winning all over on the continent iwould think you would like the blue Tam

which one Andy the big photo one is a stock ck ithink i am right and saying the wht ck is a multi winner but not certain they are all very much alike there is some abslute corkers amongst them i would honestly say you would be hard pressed to make your mind up which one to take if offered which no one will except maybe Mick as i would have had them the next time i am either speaking to mick or Ronny i will ask him to post more of the stock birds

i hope you do Stewart he looks a belter

i think guys yous are missing the point£500 for an old ck out of a stud not for me but if i was at an auction /clearence sale no problem i would buy old proven stock birds there are plenty old stock birds breeding top class quality birds you just slip the eggs under feeders the only reason they get to that age is because what they have produced otherwise would be long gone

only a matter of time robbie thats a cracking doo pete if in doubt dont send as he will win again