WITH ALL THE HYPE THAT GOES WITH PIGEONS THEY ALL CANT WIN, I REMEMBER A GUY IN BELGIUM AND HE SHOWED ME A BOOK WITH ALL THE UK AND IRISH FANCIERS WINNING WITH HIS BIRDS, I ASKED A SIMPLE QUESTION TO HIM HOW MANY YB DO YOU BREED AND HE SAID 1000 AND I SAID TO MY TRANSLATER IF I BREED A 1000 TUMBLERS SOMEONE WILL WIN WITH THEM AND OFF I WENT KEPT MY MONEY IN MY POCKET, THE MORAL HERE IS IF YOUR HAPPY FLYING ROLAND JANSENNS OR RONNIE DE DOBBLAER OR WHOEVER AND THEY WIN FINE, A LOT OF TALK OF OTHER STRAINS AND OVER IN IRELAND THEY DONT WIN MUCH AND THERE WAS A 2 YEAR WAITING LIST. IF YOUR HAPPY WITH YOUR BIRDS AND THEIR WINNING THATS ENOUGH FOR ME, THERE IS A LOT MORE OUT THERE WINNING WITH RJ AND RDD THAN ARE SAYING THEY DONT ONLY FLY GRIZZLES FOOD FOR THOUGHT BANDIT