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like im saying we probably get one or two chances to test our birds they can continualy test there birds but yet we can hold our own in the International competisions so if we test less and still win think of how well we could be developing our strains

plenty of rollermen on here im sure someone can help

i've been wanting a more nationalised system for years but them who have agained by keeping one basketing station wont let another open in fear of a true national been formed

more would have ago if more basketing stations were allowed and suited those flying further and can get there birds picked up most of these so called nationals are inexcessable by the fanciers that wish to fly in them and some you have to pre pay before you send im sorry but i selected the day i basket not 2 weeks before they could be hawked lost smashed up anything in a period of two weeks

no it wouldnt reflect the birds in this country in a fair view , rember on the continent they can near enough choose whichever race point each week to send , there birds to , this next example is a bad one but shows you how a family can develope quick using the continental method , Albert Marselles only ever sent to 2 race points to develope his birds becoming the sprint master of Belgium in our old bird programme he would get 2 races a year but a similar story for channel birds you at best get a few channel races into prove your birds each year but if you had the choice you would probably fly more from a point to specialise at your choosen distance so if we had more choice and a more national out look im sure we could and would lead the way

i was rummaging about in it for my Christmas present , i think the postman may have nicked my free new years collection up to 6 birds in one transaction voucher ;D ;D ;D

i gave one on another thread but as most marking stations stop in south yourkshire or beyond the Humber there not very well supported or accessable by all so results from these would only provide a very small percent of what could indeed be accomplished by the fanciers of our once great land

our postmans a slacker , should of been here a fortnight ago lol ;D ;D ;D

Thanks for the Christmas card , was very supprised to get it i must be the number one customer ;D ;D ;D ;D

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well once we stop buying birds from abroad and stop buying there pigeons , and raced more on a club bases inland and more national based at the channel then there would be more worthy results and if you wanted to specialise at a certain channel point / distance you wouldnt just get one atempt or two attemps a season then we would vastly improve our birds to the level on the continent , as for write ups on people most are done for friends and not the winning top lofts most of the time , and this is mainly done out of jelousy of there winning abilitys and stockmanship i have noticed only one British Fancier on the PIPA.BE site , this is obviously not a true reflection of the fancy in the UK perhaps this is where we are going wrong , we should be starting to refer to birds in our lofts as our own familys as they do abroad with reference to there original strain , as once they left the loft of origin they have also lost there stocksmanship and wont be breeding to what they would of paired them too . Then we will see pigeons for what they truely are , good or bad , on the continent they dont own one strain or two strains they just buy the pigeons from the champions or as close as they can afford , look at Busheart he bought birds from all the champions a vast gene pool and as such probably the second best strain of heinz 57 to hit the Uk , number 1 would be in my opinion would be Jansens but no pure strain just 2 that complemented each other the wegge and the gits and later added from the likes of Fabry ectra , so forget the strains and buy the best you can afford the more diverse the gene pool the more chances of producing the champions of tomorrow , and if truth be known i think we have the best birds in the world improve the structure of racing and we will reap the benifits of the markets of tomorrow

lovely post

im sure if they wanted to breed these birds im 100% sure they would get sponsers from a good percentage of pigeon fanciers to breed

link dont work Duncan

and if hawk gets one or two on way home thats just nature ;D ;D ;D ;D

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and could take them training with you

bilan welcome to the site , we look forward to your posts enjoy the site

could have some diclofenic fed white doves

are pigeons alergic thats what i would want to know firstly

http://www.chevita.com/en/pigeons/symptoms/index.php

Tournier is where the grizzles come from

well i think these birds offer value for money , and if you have the room why not i bets theres some top distance birds hid away in that lot

i had neighbour trouble she moved out recently must of been the nice letter i had sent ;D ;D ;D ;D

well done persistance is the key and dont feed them at old loft they son know where there better off