Frank Sheader aint flown a feather in years but hes a good stockman and breeds good birds and at reasonable prices , it doesnt bother me one bit if birds come from a non flying loft or non flying stud they soon get sorted out in the basket , two champion pigeons can breed as much bad pigeons as two non champion pigeons and champions can be bred from two adverage birds , but as a general thing i think if you can get from a performing loft then you'l pay a little more with less failures , so can be cheaper in the long run