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Tumley Lofts Stud welcome to Pigeon Basics , we look forward to your posts , i hope you enjoy the site

sounds like over use i just dab me emulsion brush in and dab away sounds like thumper off Bambi lol ;D ;D ;D ;D , i wouldnt want it loose will dry birds feathers out

used loft white for years , wont change any day soon not had respirity for over 10 years either

Had a similar discusion with Frank Sheader and he recons you need to take 3 rounds of each pair each year for 3 years to know if a pair are going to be of any use

maybe hes be taken over by Obamha ? ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

wouldnt wish flu on anybody , hope he recovers very soon plenty of whisky and currys soon get rid of it

you lol thats number 88 you'l feel like father xmas shellling out for that many toys lol ;D ;D ;D ;D

so your back delievering pigeons then ?

we thought you had packed up ? merry christmas all the same hope you have a good un

i see you have stamped loft manger 88 , you must be on bull system ;D ;D ;D

asha Squeaker Posts: 181 I think old yellow got the right ideal,it`s good ideal being 1 step away with hopper on the floor,but titbits in the nestbox evenings before you tuck them up in bed,makes them know your there to protect them,help the nervous by playfight on the edge of the box ,til he leaans to know he`s master of his box,how a pigeon can change just by given it this bit of confidence, so hopper and pots best of both worlds .

If flying two races at same time i.e one sprint one distance i would feed the sprinters in morning and box them up with drinker on basket so can set other birds up fer evening

ill be racing my hens for first time next season , along with the cocks

white blood cells on the swab would indicate bacterial infection and the white cells would be produced to fight the infection , but not knowing which spetrum specific antibiotic ectra to treat it with is a result thats worthless without the follow up tests on what to treat it with

I've only ever used Northern Hygene when you find a good one you dont change , all micro bacteria get tested against meds and the positive results are used to treat cant get better than treating with something that works 9/10 they say you can buy it or they are happy to supply it for you if prescription only

the swabs will be in what my vets call a soup solution what this is is a simple sugar / glugose solution the reason for this is bacteria outside the gut and nothing to feed on will simply die the sugar helps them to multiple and would be multiplying for 24 hours in the post then 72 hours after they will be able to make a result but i prefer to have them run the test longer to see how the bacterias are growing , which is a more acurate test

takes a week to get a decent amount of bacterial growth and 2 weeks to get a clear count unless there is an issue with the birds health and the bacteria multiplys quicker , but your right swabs cant give results straight away , dropping samples can tho

All Clear and all done without chemicals or drugs 100% natural immunity

northern hygene complete test £30 sent in post each swab come with soup solution to keep the bacteria alive and there a Defra approved vets and do tests for the goverment on all animals and birds Northern Hygiene Laboratories Thorpe House Kelleythorpe Estate Driffield East Yorkshire Y025 9DJ Tel: 01377 241945 Fax: 01377 241910

Have done both methods early season i find it benificial to feed in boxes to create a bond with there box and makes them more tame on channel races i find you cant make them eat enough , and as says above they are then compeating for food and eat more , you can control there food more by feeding in the box and feed them all individualy , but if you have sprint races and distance races same day then box feeding the best way in my mind to get them eating more ( distance birds ) i top them up with oil seeds which they eat the lot so pros and cons for feeding both methods , thing is you get to know which grains your birds like the most and therefore can condition better for the race ahead

well im 230 from coast and 420 from lerwick so must be around 600 to 630

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be around 600 to 630 miles as a guess

Good pigeons will do well where ever they go