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Happy Birthday CS AKA Craig Speight hope you have a good un mate

if you test on a regular bases then you wouldnt end up with birds that are very ill in the first place , if i came across an ill bird , first id isolate have a testing kit already at home or be prepared to travel the 70 miles if your birds are worth it , ill birds or birds falling ill have weak immune systems and are a gate way to illness in any loft , i would promtly remove these birds no mater of cost or racing ability

Happy Birthday Rose hope you have a great day and go easy on the sherrys and sherberts

once we get away from keeping strains of pigeons and keeping just good birds of our own strain then we will have the highbrid vigour and far better birds , and far more so called British strains as they will have losted there tag of origin

i voted Versa Laga althought i use farm corns as much as i can , but Versa Laga in my mind has the best range and is what i use during the racing season

no such thing as a real British strain there only British by the racing and training here , i was an advocate of keeping just British strains but once you look deeper theres more foreign birds in them than anything , so i have gone down the the good bird route buy good birds theres no such thing as a good strain theres good and bad in every loft even the champion top flyers carry crap , its just they carry far more better pigeons due to good selection stocksmanship and racing eliminating inferior birds. Buy good birds forget strains , you'l get more of a hybrid vigour and create a greater more vast pool of winning genes to hit from

i went for naturaly treat but if my birds had anything i would treat them on my vets intructions

should of added by vets instuctions only

what colour spots are in throat ? yellow cheesey spots indicate canker , but the gases from the pool could be poisoning the birds , perhaps wind change is reason for getting better then ill again , i would get a blood sample to see if been poisioned , a tempary measure would be to use Black minerals ( charpos ) and clay mineral blocks to help the systems of the birds detoxify perhaps this loft will need moving into a better position.

welcome back David

kevinfrail123 welcome to the site , we look forward to your posts enjoy the site

i havent completely gone down that road but i shy away from medication unless my birds need it and have been prescribed it by a vet , i put a post up earlier on the products i mixed together to achieve no counts of worms , cocci and canker its working for me , weak pigeons i kill there the gateway to disease outbreaks in anyones loft well for many years i have had counts for canker and cocci then when i had worms, worms was the first i irradicated , first i wormed chemicaly then used mollasses also know as treacle to keep at bay using 2 tablespoons once a week diluted in hot water so was liquid this had worked so left me with the cocci and canker . I used to clean out everyday twice a day but the cocci and canker was always there in low counts majority of the time below treatable levels , i also got respirity disease so obviously changed loft treated all sorted won for 2 years on the trot highest prize winner. All this time cleaning and biancoing the floors and boxes on a daily bases . Since going to Turkey for a holliday this year i was going for a fortnight and had to let my friend look after the birds i put hempcore in the loft , and as i advocate a clean loft i was going to remove this when got back but the condition of the birds made me replace it , the conclusion i come to on seeing the vet was this the birds feet were rougher tougher and harder than that of a bird in a loft without bedding so there feet was less absorbant to the cocci as a result , but by no means the sole reason for not having Cocci . I have used Orego stim a product i bought to tighten the droppings up so as this doesnt do this greatly i dismissed this product . On tidying loft up prior to making my widowhood boxes i had a few products left all of which treat these disease/ symptoms , i took a full jar of mollases added this to a 5 litre bottle watered down left for 24hrs then i added half a bottle of cider vinegar ( canker treatment ) the near full bottle of Orego stim ( i had used twice with no great effect ) then topped this up with Aviform Ultimate andd added water shook up , i used 20mls of this to a 8 pint drinker 3 days on and 3 days off but im sure 3 days a week be enough so it works out very cheap to keep everything down , im going to experiment and use the naturline instead of the orego stim as i think will do a better job and is much cheaper , then ill get tested at vets before racing starts hope this helps to get your birds 100% as it has mine , but its a combination of alot of things that i have done and most by accident with great effects , all the best mark

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did you have a cock in with the hens ?

i have used box profile guttering before they topple over even with the supports on them i soon binnned them , i prefer metal feeders , my young bird feeder is a old metal grill pan tray for old cooker , works wonders

Butcher welcome to the site , we look forward to your posts enjoy the site

all the best all whos entering

cracking job mate

yup mine on doors also then just put a dowel door on inside so can open it up in the hotter days of the summer i'd just block them tops up with perspex if you arent going to use them Josh then can also keep them out of sputnik when its damp and wet

well for many years i have had counts for canker and cocci then when i had worms, worms was the first i irradicated , first i wormed chemicaly then used mollasses also know as treacle to keep at bay using 2 tablespoons once a week diluted in hot water so was liquid this had worked so left me with the cocci and canker . I used to clean out everyday twice a day but the cocci and canker was always there in low counts majority of the time below treatable levels , i also got respirity disease so obviously changed loft treated all sorted won for 2 years on the trot highest prize winner. All this time cleaning and biancoing the floors and boxes on a daily bases . Since going to Turkey for a holliday this year i was going for a fortnight and had to let my friend look after the birds i put hempcore in the loft , and as i advocate a clean loft i was going to remove this when got back but the condition of the birds made me replace it , the conclusion i come to on seeing the vet was this the birds feet were rougher tougher and harder than that of a bird in a loft without bedding so there feet was less absorbant to the cocci as a result , but by no means the sole reason for not having Cocci . I have used Orego stim a product i bought to tighten the droppings up so as this doesnt do this greatly i dismissed this product . On tidying loft up prior to making my widowhood boxes i had a few products left all of which treat these disease/ symptoms , i took a full jar of mollases added this to a 5 litre bottle watered down left for 24hrs then i added half a bottle of cider vinegar ( canker treatment ) the near full bottle of Orego stim ( i had used twice with no great effect ) then topped this up with Aviform Ultimate andd added water shook up , i used 20mls of this to a 8 pint drinker 3 days on and 3 days off but im sure 3 days a week be enough so it works out very cheap to keep everything down , im going to experiment and use the naturline instead of the orego stim as i think will do a better job and is much cheaper , then ill get tested at vets before racing starts hope this helps to get your birds 100% as it has mine , but its a combination of alot of things that i have done and most by accident with great effects , all the best mark

same here Josh take a few