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chocolates tend to be breeeders of winners the blues pencils checkers will win they cross well but pure pretty useless from my experience , i also bought for the colour but as it was the chocolates i wanted i got rid i had won with klack and busheart crosses one cock multiple prize winner he bred a few winners himself

aye tis coming back shortly

they are Delbar even the grizzles go back to the Golden grizz of Maurice Delbar , these also went to form the Belengeez Delbars also a grizzle family

well he should have the birds to put in them lol one on his avitar

probably Ian axe :-/

i wish wouldnt mind been a pound poorer than that bloke lol ;D ;D ;D ;D

aye old and burnt out ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

R.I.P PETE

im sure hes stilll on the site

Your round at Blackers then mines a pint of vodka lol ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D well done

its vitamins on a mollases base NOT JUST MOLLASSES

go round yer club mates free racing then lol :D :D

if you go on link above says same up there

its the same recipe i havent used it but used the old aviform and liked it all i do is add treacle bit warm water to disolve leave overnight too cool then add to water with new aviform only reason not used the black magic is its not dear to buy mollases and aviform usualy buy one get one free

Ken Briggs of Smethwick had them years ago won a Vanobrays gold ring with them

kellens sid collins of Ireland : http://forum.pigeonbasics.com/m-1226875004/

i keep mine in due to hawk / percy , but would still do same if werent having any problems , i like them to have a stress free moult , and get the flights fully up so birds dont get sore , then breeding so effort and energy go in to rearing , once removed your starting with birds that need to get fit and build there fitness up from there , your more or less starting with a fresh bird imo

pretty much same here wont let birds out till finished rearing first round

cane molasess also known as black treacle which is unrefined sugar , its supposed to be a good dewormer , was used in the orginal aviform , but changed to a new recipe but still available through another company renamed as black magic : http://pigeons.taylorschoice.co.uk/search/results.php?s=black+magic

honey is made up of frutose and glucose , i find glucose is just as effective as honey

nice job

hope its got a winning lottery ticket in it lol ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

well put the elderberrys into a fruit juicer and juice , then fill ice cube bags up with the juice then freeze then you have it all year round , heres some reasons : In a placebo-controlled, double-blind study, elderberry was shown to be effective for treating Influenza B.[4] People using the elderberry extract recovered much faster than those only on a placebo. The study was published in the Journal of Alternative Complementary Medicine. A small study published in 2004 showed that 93% of flu patients given extract were completely symptom-free within two days; those taking a placebo recovered in about six days. This current study shows that, indeed, it works for type A flu, reports lead researcher Erling Thom, with the University of Oslo in Norway.[5] Thom's findings were presented at the 15th Annual Conference on Antiviral Research. The study involved 60 patients who had been suffering with flu symptoms for 48 hours or less; 90% were infected with the A strain of the virus, 10% were infected with type B. Half the group took 15 milliliters of extract and the other group took a placebo four times a day for five days. Patients in the extract group had "pronounced improvements" in flu symptoms after three days: nearly 90% of patients had complete cure within two to three days. Also, the extract group had no drowsiness, the downside of many flu treatments. The placebo group didn't recover until at least day six; they also took more painkillers and nasal sprays. It's likely that antioxidants called flavonoids—which are contained in the extract—stimulate the immune system, writes Thom. Also, other compounds in elderberry, called anthocyanins, have an anti-inflammatory effect; this could explain the effect on aches, pains, and fever. Elderberry extract could be an "efficient and safe treatment" for flu symptoms in otherwise healthy people and for those with compromised immune systems, such as the elderly, Thom adds. Russell Greenfield, MD, a leading practitioner of integrative medicine and medical director of Carolinas Integrative Health, advocates treating flu with black elderberry, he says in a news release. "It can be given to children and adults, and with no known side effects or negative interactions," he says. "But don't expect grandma's elderberry jam" to ease flu symptoms like body aches, cough, and fever, he warns. "Extract is the only black elderberry preparation shown effective in clinical studies."

Better juiced and made into ice cubes

R.I.P