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welcome to pigeon basics , we hope you enjoy the site

welcome to pigeon basics , we hope you enjoy the site

i suggest you get a smoke bomb and test it out i think youl need some vents in lower at front of loft but like some have said get a handrail be a nasty fall if fell of watching birds and a tidy loft from what i can see

wheres your ventilation ? :-/

has the loft got an internal corridor ?

and as this has arisen again im back at it

i use yoghurt theres alot of debate how much live bacteria is left but most companys say there is enough to colonise the gut , these must withstand bile im doing a bit of research into this at the moment with a company that makes cultures for yoghurt and cheese making ( although cheese is a different process )

beat me to it lol but only just lol

live friend bacteria that colonise the gut wall like a defense mechanism for unfriendly bacteria that colonise the gut

Food-grade flaxseed oil is cold-pressed, obtained without solvent extraction, and marketed as edible flaxseed oil. Fresh, refrigerated and unprocessed, linseed oil is used as a nutritional supplement. It contains high levels of omega-3 fatty acids, especially alpha-linolenic acid, which may be beneficial for reducing inflammation leading to atherosclerosis,[3] preventing heart disease and arrhythmia,[4] and is required for normal infant development.[5] However recent well-controlled placebo studies suggest that regular consumption of flax seed oil may not reduce the risk of stroke, heart disease, or cancer any greater than placebo.[6] Regular flaxseed oil contains between 52 and 63% alpha linolenic acid (C18:3 n-3). Plant breeders have developed flaxseed with higher alpha linoleic acid content (70%) and very low alpha linolenic acid content (< 3%).[7] The USFDA granted GRAS (Generally Recognized As Safe) status for high alpha linolenic flaxseed oil.[8] Although flax seeds themselves contain lignans, a class of phytoestrogens considered to have antioxidant and cancer-preventing properties,[9][10][11] the extracted linseed oil does not contain the lignans found in flax seed,[9] and therefore does not have the same antioxidant properties. In fact, flax seed oil is easily oxidized, and rapidly becomes rancid with an unpleasant odor unless refrigerated. Even when kept under cool conditions it has a shelf life of only a few weeks.[12][13] Oil with an unpleasant or rancid odour should be discarded. Rancid oils contribute to the formation of free radicals and may be carcinogenic.[14][15][16] Oxidation of flax seed oil is major commercial concern, and antioxidants may be added to prevent rancidification

also brewers yeast contains amino acids which helps the birds metabolism i read an article / book think my have been by 'Old Hand ' that vitamins arent absorbed if birds havent had linseed , and for those that like using oils flax / linseed oil has lost all its qualitys once pressed so has little benifit to birds other than in its seed form and soon goes rancid

Straights & Nutritional Comments Maize The several types of maize don't give much feeding value in difference with the main differences being mostly in outlook and the vitamin percentages. Maize contains many digestible carbohydrates, little raw cellulose and an awful lot of fat. Peas Peas are the protein carrier to the corn mixture and they have a very high feeding value and are easily digestible by the bird. Difference in protein percentage can differ from type to type. Those used by Johnston & Jeff offers consistency of percentage. We do not use cheaper peas like the Canadian trapper peas where the difference in protein content may be 10% lower than those that come from New Zealand. Beans The same feeding value as Peas but on average have a little more protein and fat. The Tic Bean is an ideal breeding food for young pigeons. Wheat The wheat used in our mixtures is grown by a farmer just outside of Hull and the wheat bought is of biscuit quality. This means that it has a high percentage of protein and a lower percentage of fat then maize. New crop wheat is always used for the Moulting mixture as new crop wheat contains a lot of sulphur which is an ideal moulting stimulant. Tares These are actually a pulse and are very high in protein and therefore are only used sparingly in mixtures. Safflowerseed Is rich in good digestible proteins and oils, phosphor and vitamins. This is why they are very useful in moulting and racing mixtures but their own problem is lack of Vitamin E content. White Dari It is very sweet for pigeons to eat but contains very little fat and very little protein. It is therefore, an ideal grain to put in to depurative mixtures or as a supplementary regulator to prevent a mixture becoming too heavy to digest. Red Dari (Milo) Very similar to White Dari in that it contains very little fat and only around 7.6% protein so prevents the fattening of pigeons. Naked Oats Very highly digestible food offering reasonable amounts of protein and extremely digestible fats. Barley This contains a lot of raw cellulose, little fat and little digestible protein. This is the ideal cereal for depurative mixtures and overweight pigeons can be brought in to condition again with barley. Buckwheat Contains an awful lot of raw cellulose but less fat than that of oats and the protein is a higher biological feeding value than most of the cereals. To be used sparingly in mixtures. Linseed Linseed contains a lot of fat and proteins; it is also a laxative and gives a shine to feathers. Hence its use in moulting mixtures and depurative mixtures. It must be used sparingly due to its properties.

mine dont leave the barley they eat all thats put down for them if there leaving barley they've been over fed

prefer green the white peas tend to be in moulting mixes or cheaper mixes i find my birds dont like them much so i never buy them

might be of intrest to you http://forum.pigeonbasics.com/m-1195378849/s-0/highlight-maple/#num0

id use green peas every time not that you would have getting greenpeas or maples up your end

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i think many fanciers think theres something wrong with there birds because there droppings arent right , this is off season and they can experiment with feeding a little , for example feeding straights instead of mixes then they'll learn what grains do to a birds constitution , i have found that any one grain can have an adverse effect on the birds , from constitution of droppings to size of droppings , feed determines what you get in dropping structure without the knowledge of grains and pulse how would they determine there dropping are right

hi Josh im currently feeding local farm corn , my mix is this : 50% barley 25% maize 25% maples , works out less than £5 for 25 kg and dropping are like bullets

is pigeon racing in decline or the silly prices that one demands are too high ? pigeon racing is pedominately an old mans hobby , most that take it up are pensioners , they have 1 the avialbe free income and means to take part , along with free time thats the difference with a younger person who has family , as for prices of birds it comes down to basic market demands if there is demand there will always be supply , most auctions are there to get the maximum for a brd shop wisely and can get same for a fraction of the cost , auctioneers only get high prices when inflated by over zelous bidders all after the same birds its a buyers market its up to the individual how much any bird is worth

the pencil is a hen and a fine one at that

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has anyone got his numbed if so can they pm it to me as i've lost it cheers Mark

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