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well i suppose its a bit like this if you took a tin of beans one shops own brand and a tin of heinz both contain harricott beans in tomatoe sauce both have a tin ones branded other a cheaper alternative but the same beans are used , and if probably removed the labels and tried both they would be very little difference , i read somewhere the belgians actualy import our maples and tic beans and were just buying them back realy

Hexamitiasis, Salmonellosis, E.coli infection, Worm infestation, Coccidiosis could be any of these get them tested

sorry to hear words cant describe how you must feel but chin up mate things will get better

which mix ??? might be worth trying adding some barley if has gout

i accept what you say about checking the dropping yourself by using a microscope , however do you have the facilitys to grow these bacterias and parasites and see which medicine is most effective ? most presciption medicines given are spectrum specific and are given out because whatever ailment responded best to it , you can tell what it is by a microscope but you cant treat it as effectively as a vet with laboratry facilities

could be gout or Salmonellosis (Paratyphus)? are the joints swelling or may have bumped itself what are you feeding ?

Northern Hygene will send a kit out and a complete test costs £30 and there a Defra accredited vet and specalise in Avian health http://www.eastriding.gov.uk/az/face_content_frame_proc?p_ref=APP170&p_media=INTERNET&p_spec=SPEC948

quality comes from how its harvested and allowed to dry ectra wheat barley if get damp will mould if you eat and few bits of wheat and barley you can taste if it has mould and you can usualy tell by the colour of its quality , peas and pluses can wrinkle and split and also squash but if stored and dried correctly you can determine the quality of it quite simple realy its not put in a spinner and polished or died to gain colour to look like something its not , most top brands are good quality corn and yes i have used them and do use them for racing but like i said i have won on corn ive mixed myself and also on branded corn if i have the room i have no bother mixing it myself but guess if limited room pre made mixes are easier but you pay more for it

cheap doesnt mean theres no quality i beat 4 Scarborough clubs from Jouey Le Chatel using my own mixed farm corn not another bird for 5 minutes and i lost 5 minutes trapping , kirky watched mine been trapped traveled up road to his mates and watch the other club winner been clocked

aye and all grown in mud in fields since we started growing crops , polish it off put in a nice bag give it a name and laugh all the way to the bank

Anyone go to George Plants sale and how much were they going for ????

stock that arent let out arent prey to hawks either so if you have paid alot of money there safer inside , but as shes just starting i would recommend waiting a while and getting ybs then she cant get her birds accustomed to her and enjoy them having there freedom

if your in uk i think its pretty much same for everyone not last night but night before had very heavy rain , have a nice water logged back garden

recent studys have shown that birthdays are actualy good for you those that have the most of them tend to live the longest , have a great day regards Mark

contact graham via email : grahamgiddings@aol.com heres npa site http://www.nationalpigeonassociation.co.uk/#

i use farm barrels holds 4 25 kg bags

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get mine from supermarket if not fit for human consumption there not fit fer ma birds too much mould will do far more harm than good

i dont like plastic bags any sunlight / dampness and it sweats the worse seeds be sunflower and safflower they'll look ok on outside but be mouldy on inside

came across this article thought might show us all a thing or two most best birds are usualy of unwanted pairings and how good are these hyped up birds abroad ? have a read of this article http://schaerlaeckens.mikehopman.nl/pages/leesartikel.php?id=126

if thats the going price think everybody should sell them :X

sorry to see you go Sammy

put in to editor of BHW and let others know , im sure he can dna cock fer proof

he might of hads some sperm frozen :X :X :X :X ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D