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The rain was running down the streets in ponty yesterday afternoon about 4ish Phil

looking good, and ready for next introductions!

if the young are feeding in the hopper then they are old enough to be weaned away. Phil

if its 1 pair i would out them as its a weakness and will pass it to there young! Phil

thats good news, chances are they may all return to him! Phil

Personally if you are serious about your pigeons I would never mix pigeons and poultry for hygene reasons etc. Also how would you plan to feed for racing, breeding etc. Sure the poultry would enjoy best corn and leave the pigeons with the layers pellets and rubbish! Keep seperate! Phil

They may return to him or may just be having a look around the area. Meant the padlocks for the loft although if some toerag wants to get in they will. Phil

they may return, just keep an eye out for them! Did they come from a local loft to which they may have returned? Hope you get them back and buy a padlock. Phil

The only clay bowls I have found recently have holes on the bottom and need to be used with a nest felt but you may be able to find some solid ones if you search the net. Phil

the solid clay are best if you can get them!

don't know what you mean, whats wrong with the British weather, if your a duck that is? quak quak

circovirus has no cure, Adenovirus isn't actualy a virus and can be treated with antibiotics but I would doughbt if research is being done into the cause, certainly notin this country. The only thing you can do is be prentative and maintain a good level of hygene, isolate sick or run down birds imediatly, don't allow strays to stay in with your own birds etc etc. Prevention is better than cure! Phil

get em up early , rain due latter!

his test results came back as Adenovirus, but as you say Tony that takes a few days as it lowers the imunity allowing other problems to set in. Also would only normaly effect young birds as old birds will have a reasonable imunity to most things! I think the problem with most labs is they give out results within a couple of days and don't give the virus time to grow under lab conditions to find out what it is for sure! Phil

What you mean Lennut, 200 years ago, were still sending you convicts and your welcome to them!! Phil

pm me the details, i am about 20m north of Swansea but have got to go there tomorrow at some point Phil

i wouldn't put the water in as the parents may think they should be self sufficient, they will start to eat but the parents will supply enogh fluid.

Stick to fishing Vic!

At about 14days I start putting a pot in the nest box so the young start to feed and learn to feed so put a pot in for them and they should be fine. Phil

it does spread rapidly, he went down the birds one morning and all was well, thought great maybe the 4/5 dead birds a day had come to an end. He cleaned, fed, watered etc, went in for his breakfast and looked down the garden to see one dead in the aviary, still warm!

he has ended up with about a dozen oldbirds.

Damian, that sounds like the bird may have had a knock! Yes Peter they are devestated, burnt all boxes and perches from race loft which is 2 gardens from there house and stock loft and soaked the place for days with virkon-s. They have some youngbirds in there again which have been ok, I took him another batch on monday. They were very near to packing up completely, I realy feel for the son as he was so looking forward to flying his own birds after I got him through his driving test during the winter. He has spent a lot of money on youngbirds but I for one am glad they are going to continue as they are good guys! Phil

interesting dogeon, the guy in my club had it 1st in his youngbirds, there droppings almost pure clear fluid and then dead within hours. It then spread to his yearlings and finally to the stock loft and his sons loft who was starting on his own this year. He was recommended everything under the sun but nothing touched it. It has now gone through the loft and they have lost 130 birds! Phil

yep, although 1 youngster I saw did have mild neck twist and was struggleing to find food.

I believe if its the same as i've seen its a form of paramyxo, very wattery droppings and dead within hours! Phil