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well done skull. in s. africa,,, been watching your results ,,improving all the time,, good luck

youll get plenty of info on that post frank ;D ;D ;D

its a strange one that frank,, it makes you wonder why this happened only the one year, using the same system,, and the yb,s flying very well,,, just wondering what would cause this :-/ our climate in scot?? this confuses us, never mind the birds lol ;D,, but it does make you wonder,,, has anyone down south had this happen?/

with due respect owen, would birds holding full body feathering, well into the autumn, manage to throw all their nest flights for the following year?? in the past ive always put them on normal daylight hours on the longest day,,then after the racing , gave plenty rest, baths, and buttermilk in their water, with no problem in them fully moulting their flights , ive seen fanciers with darkness yb,s holding their last flight,, then the following season threw this last flight at the same time as their second flight

i was thinking down feathers frank i must say ive never seen this

thanks chrisbonnie even tying a cabbage or lettuce washed and sprinkled with a little salt [cabbage good for iron] roots and all , even the earth lol, ,,,to the aviary wire, again making them keep flapping their wings to get at it

its allways a good sign to see plenty down feathers, [as above post suggests],, you will soon notice when they take their second moult ,, the loft will be full of feathers

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massareli has these yellows,, but maybe a better bet , some info from " old yellow" ,,,hes not REALLY old ;D ;D ;D ;D just about 90 ;D ;D ;D next bithday lol ;D

surely someone has an idea, :-/ :-/ :-/ although im not at all up on ets systems, but i know [if its of any help lol] a member that didnt clear his base station of trainers prior to basketing, but this code didnt turn up on his?? and his times recorded ok in the race following :-/ :-/,,,,,surely someone has an idea , how this was, or has anyone else had this,??

my goodness , what a great job , well done,,, would be great to see the bird repay you, and by the look of it now,, it surely will good luck

well done alex,, and a great name in memory of arthur.. good luck, and many more wins to come

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bright blue skies in the lothians,, very light winds ,, south

just up,, 7 30,, feeling crap [and thats without drink lol] ,, least alf and co, made me smile ;D ;D ;D,,, just hope he got that in the right order ;D ;D ;D ;D

a most positive post

after a shocking week of rain here in the lothians, things look a lot better for saturday

my view on helping youngsters in this sport, is firstly, encouraging and making them welcome and the letting them know, the "skies the limit" if worked on,and is patient. secondly to accept there are more downs than ups , which will make the winning more rewarding,,then would advise him/her to have a good mentor in the management of pigeons,,, and be prepared to work,and think hard on the many aspects of the sport, a good mentor would or should be able to help/advise/console/congratulate,,,,,,,,,and most important give freely,

will add no 9 lol

i am no eyesign expert, and feel there are many like me in the fancy, i think the problem is, there is also many who THINK their eyesign experts, but like me, know very little,[there are also many who DO know about iridology/ eyesign],,,.although a very interesting subject, as , are all subjects on racing pigeons. to me, eyesign means very little, apart from showing good health,[with due respect] and only my opinion, after many years racing pigeons i have found that, as a fancier having the ability, the management, and good honest working pigeons,and to be able to bring good pigeons in to "form" at the time needed, is far more important ,, but i will hazard a guess lol ;D at the two which have won well ,,,,,,,5 and 9

true, the longer you cage them, the harder they are to break maybe a wee true story on how quick birds can settle if treated right, a friend of mine [now deceased] willie pentland, made a challenge for me, , he bred /raced a black cock for two years, in its second year the pigeon raced to him from 60 miles to the south coast 360 miles [dorchester to edinburgh] on the day this bird returned from dorchester, he friendly challenged me to break this bird and send it to the snfc sartilly 21 days later [this was 505 miles], i took up the challenge feeling this was impossible,, i noticed the pigeon had nested in the bottom left hand corner nest box in his loft, so i took the bird, its mate ,its nest pan , even the twigs and droppings,, took this to my loft about 5 miles north, put it in the same positioned box [bottom left hand box] along with everything from its old box [this was his first eggs of the season as he raced w/hood] i put a board in front of the nest box, he then sat on the eggs along with his hen, i shifted this board further away from the front of the box, then further again as he still sat, looking a little dubias at this time , i took some of his twigs out , laid them on the floor , he then carried them back in to his nest, the board was removed altogether while i kept him doing this , he then flew up to the sputnick, and looked around , the hen now sitting, amazingly when the hen came of the eggs , he took his turn, i then took the twigs back out and put them in the sputnick, the black cock , again took the twigs from the sputnick ,down to his [now new box], after three days i let the other birds out let them land, then filled the bath, opened the sputnick, all doors etc, he then after taking twigs in from the , now open sputnick, flew down , and took a bath, he lay in the sun, looking around, dried off ,,,,then went off , i told willie to chase the bird , not to let it in his loft, he did this all day , that evening ,near dark, the bird retuned , landed on the sputnick, then dropped in , and on his eggs, he was out each day after that flying back and forth ,but with willie never letting him in and chasing him. after a few days i had him carrying nesting material [emptying his nest regular] from further up the garden each time, he finished up with a nest almost touching the top of the box after having the bird 8 days, allister mcuddin came to visit me from freuchie about 35miles north of me, i asked him to take the bird and release it, which he did,, the bird homed to me, i took his hen away after having the bird 18 days and placed two big youngsters under him , i had, had the bird excactly 21 days when he was sent to the snfc sartilly, national,, he was timed in to be 101 open in the whole of scotland [with around 4-5000 birds away] he should have been 92nd as the shu had put my wrong distances in, i could have objected , but as the result was out it wasnt going to make much difference, so, after having a new pigeon for only 21 days , he flew the 505 miles from france , to in fact win me a 92cnd position in the whole of scotland :) very true

as said in previous posts a mixture of small seeds,, the linseed in it helps the feathering during the moult, the hemp, they love, but overdoing it will heat the blood up and induce the moult ,, its a tit-bit for them, which in moderation , will do them good ,, just as the saying goes,,, a little of what you fancy does you good