got to know charlie wooff and family [all pigeon mad ] very well ,,about 40years ago ,,also through reporting a stray ,,,, he sent two birds up the following year , one bred out of his brothers car winner " bonnie blue" the other from his lerwick winner,,[imagine giving birds like this to me ],,,in one race,,ist and 2cnd FED ,,,nearly 6,000 birds [but after staying with him for a week aquired some of his management, ways ,,,,,,,,never to be forgotten :) ,,,,fantastic flier in over over 60 years of flying,,,still topping the fed regular and still keeping in touch regular