Good hardy doos in those days but it was much easier to get them home Jim, you will agree. We had a doo 11 times 500+ miles and many 4,5 and 6 times across.I remember we had 32 obs in loft and 27 had flown channel, ohh memories lol.The doo game is not a patch nowadays on what it used to be, because of bop etc, imo.