This is correct Walter, its the worst part of our game, people talking crap about returns.You don't get a true reflection of how the race went with all the bull talk after it. I watch folk and how many they send at the start, always with great returns, and then they end up with 1 at the national Its the same with ets, people taking their clock out, what a load of crap. They just don't want folk to see their returns. Its for the same reason that some guys don't want ets.