GROVEHOMER

YEAH, JOHNSONS TONIC HAS STOOD THE TEST OF TIME.

Generally speaking, had a bad time with them.Trouble is their 0870 no. makes a bad experience that much worse!!...Bad enough complaining without it costing me a small fortune. We have little choice but to use them and they know it! Dont think the ruling unions are doing enough about it.They make the rule of fanciers having to have birds collected from people good enough to report them ,you do your duty and send for them and it takes FOUR DAYS and numerous phone calls for it to happen! Honestly, now when I get a bird reported my heart sinks. A LITTLE TIP I'VE LEARNED IS LOOK UP SAYNOTO0870.COM FOR AMTRAK LOCAL No.s

WELL DONE WESTBURY LOFTS! FEATHERED LEGS, DOES YOUR COCK BIRD ORIGINATE FROM THE GIT STRAIN OR SOME OTHER OLD ENGLISH DISTANCE FAMILY?

THIS IS A HOT TOPIC, EVERYONE HAS A "NO. 1 STOCK PAIR" . HAS ANYONE REFRIGERATED EGGS (2 TO 8 .C,) AND HATCHED Y.B's THAT HAVE GONE ON TO BE GOOD RACERS OR PRODUCE WINNING OFFSPRING, AND HOW LONG HAVE YOUR EGGS BEEN STORED FOR? I KNOW THE HEN (AND THE COCK , FOR THAT MATTER) NEED TO RECOVER FROM THE MATING AND LAYING PROCESS, (APPROX 10 DAYS) ,EVEN ALLOWING FOR GOOD NUTRITION ETC ,BUT THAT APART, WITH A DECENT PAIRS' EGGS NEVER GOING TO WASTE , THIS IS A THREAD WORTH DISCUSSING ISN'T IT?

DON'T THINK THAT'S UNREASONABLE, GWEN STEFANI IS A VERY GOOD CHOICE, THOUGH I WOULD SETTLEFOR LESS HAWK ACTIVITY, ABIRD FLU FREE UK AND NO YB SICKNESS.....THINK ALL THE ABOVE IS A TAD UNREASONABLE THOUGH. MY THOUGHTS ARE WANDERING TO GWEN AGAIN!

oh well, never mind. I might make mine a little feather boa and try and pass it off as a new fancy breed! ;D But seriously it'll be an eye opener for me to see these different breeds of pigeon. GOOD LUCK TO ALL WHO TAKE PART........I'll be casting a vote.

ISN'T IT AN UNRACED YB? :

PARAMYXOVIRUS, AS PER THE RULES

THANKS WEBMASTER, ALREADY SENT MY ENTRY. THIS WILL GIVE ME SOME INTEREST FOR A NUMBER OF WEEKS.

WHAT AN IMPRESSIVE YET INEXPENSIVE LOFT DESIGN GHOST007. IT WOULD MAKE A GOOD LOFT FOR ANY NEWCOMER. I HAVE USED OSB BOARD BEFORE...IT'S MUCH CHEAPER THAN PLY WOOD AND AS LONG AS IT'S TREATED WITH CUPRINOL OR WHATEVER IT WILL STAND THE TEST OF TIME.

KEN, ARE YOUR SOUTHWELLS AND JAN AARDEN LINES RESPONSIBLE FOR ANY OF THOSE RESULTS?

YES, THANKS BRUNO, MY BIRDS ARE STAYING IN, THERE'S TOO MUCH AT RISK TO BE TAKING CHANCES. I HOPE THIS ALL BLOWS OVER SOONER RATHER THAN LATER, BUT I WONT BE HOLDING MY BREATH!

THE LATEST NEWS IS THAT POULTRY KEEPERS IN THIS COUNTRY SHOULD PROTECT THEIR BIRDS FROM WILD BIRD CONTACT. MY THOUGHT IS THIS, IF PIGEONS ARE VULNERABLE TO THIS VIRUS, SHOULDN'T WE BE SECURING OUR LOFTS FROM WILD BIRDS AND CONFINING OUR BIRDS? OTHER ADVICE FROM TOP VETS WAS THAT BIRD KEEPERS SHOULD TAKE PRECAUTIONS THAT WERE IN THE INTEREST OF THEMSELVES AND THEIR BIRDS....A BIT VAGUE!

Thanks for your input. Think of all that money I've wasted over the years boiling kettles, that could've bought me a very nice pair of stock birds!!!

I think I will try the cold water and garlic over the winter, see if I notice a difference in the birds.

I peel it then crush it, some people slice it, some dont do anything apart from peeling it. Some put it straight into freshly boiled water, others into warm water and some add it to the cold drinker water. I'm not much help am I? The beauty of this forum is that you will get enough views to confidently choose one that works for you. good luck and watch this space.

I use 4 crushed cloves of garlic added to 1 litre of boiled water thats allowed to cool for 10 mins before adding the garlic to it. This is left overnight and shared between 3 1.5 litre drinkers which are then topped up with fresh tap water, so that's 4 cloves to 1 gallon of water i'd say. I was somewhat surprised to hear that there was a yeast problem, the birds look ok, are flying well, there's no food retention or vomitting, I'm just acting on a random swab result. Do you think I'm right to try the vinegar or will a prolonged garlic treatment do the trick? Any advice will be appreciated thanks Bruno.

I,m adding 10ml of cider vinegar to 1.5litres of drinking water for 5 days, hoping that will do the trick. I use garlic once a week, 52 weeks of the year. I agree it's a very useful thing with many benefits.

Cheers, I had a swab result stating a high yeast-candida count. This was a random test on 3 birds. For ease of treatment of the entire team could I put the vinegar in their drinker, and at what water to vinegar ratio?

: HI, I'M NEW TO THE FORUM. CAN ANYONE TELL ME IF CIDER VINEGAR (OR ORDINARY MALT VINEGAR FOR THAT MATTER) IS EFFECTIVE IN TREATING CROP YEAST INFECTIONS? I ONCE BOUGHT SOMETHING FOR ABOVE CONDITION, IT LOOKED AND SMELT LIKE VINEGAR (THOUGH I STOPPED SHORT OF TASTING IT) THE THING IS, IF IT WAS VINEGAR, I WAS DONE , AS IT WORKS OUT APPROX. EIGHTY TIMES MORE EXPENSIVE!