just ask me

was just thinking what if the experniced fanicers here took on a newbie or a fanicer having trouble getting a win or 2 under there wing and gave them advice like a one on one through pm imagine the craic would be good and fanicers that have lost there way or thinking of giveing up might give them a bit of hope

all depends on what distance u want to win from

would u belive i got a extra loft in the back yard this way she cracked and it wasent funny but its still there

well done good flying

fair enough but i allways tell what i have as a few years back 1 fanicer won 2 nationals with my pigeons and never said and i allways say too just think its right thing to do

ok sound no prob just in your post sounded different me

does that mean u might not credit the win to the person who u bought the birds off

that the way it happens had a few winner taken on me there are severall way to solve problem but not all potically correct lol

are u putting something into subject

this is not a problem u are going to solve over night it takes time but i will try

right how many young birds did u breed

no prob ill try help if i can what are ure losses like if u want to pm me u can its easieer to keep in contract

what are ure losses like where abouts are u racing what area if u want to throw me a pm ill try give u a bit of advice and we can keep in contact i don't fly a bird even if i do say so myself o yes i'm not going to ask u if u want to buy any either just in case your are wondering

simple bird needs to be tested if fanicer hasent seen it before there is lots of possibilities here most likely a bacterial infection in the gut samonella might even be respiratory and a whole load of other things i cant spell this pigeon will more than likelly need a antibiotic sometimes the speed in which u give them the can make a big difference peanuts can be risky as the mould on them can cause lots of problems have even seen supermarkets ones that i wouldn't give to pigeons so be careful there

powder on the wings great sign some pll in pigeons for years cant get that lol

for all our complaning we will miss them if they do wait and see

may peace come to all the familly

ud imagine in the world we live in with defra and all that this should be the case anyway

didint think id cause any trouble when i posted it pity they woudent do the same with certain members

not being smart kellyharris but shouldn't u really know better as i know one or two pll that have these birds and the way he puts it is a pigeon after flying a 100 mile even goes under a falcon and hes up there waiting on as he calls it he reckons a experienced falcon will kill most the time as the bird is si tired another point here is we don't just leave our birds up to fly home the are highlly motivated and have nothing on there minds only to get back to there eggs hens chicks and so on so a lot of the time i have seen it where the pigeon don't even know he is after being hit untill it happens hope for u to write back to this as im alyways up for hearing other pll point of views.

couldn't agree with u at all the birds to go through the falcons first on race day are the most likely to get a slap they dive at speeds which is any where close to 180 mile hour no pigeon can fly that fast i lost a cock this year out side my loft that had brilliant results with average of birds racing 1500 to 1700 they are opportunists which take anything that coming when the are hungry have seen them kill wigeon which have unreal speed and can duck and dive like noting Ive seen

your right merlin cant understand why more pll cant see it this way like thread for the most part makes no sence at all

ure better off not going in there u wont change there mind wont do any good so what the point less they know about what we do the better really cant see any point like i keep on saying every one do there own little bit u will be surprised in what u will do its the only way we can beat these

just wanted to know what u tought which system is best to use and please this thread not about weather or not ets should be used

really well done i think too make it fair keiren give your dad a few minutes headstart this week lol