we cant keep all of the people happy all of the time we just try to do our best since there was a problem with a sale few year back ( which was not run by the site) fifer took the decision after literally 100s of posts by the members asking for some action to be taken on further sales the ideas of the members were taken into consideration at the time and Ian was bought on board to run the sales the organisation of the sales has very little to do with mods ian does all the great work of putting the sale together and all that goes with that which is a large amount of work for a few months of the year really after February the whole thing slows down as this is the sales period in the pigeon world there would probably would be be a few sales to build up a account as you suggest davie but as the requests came in it would be impossible to say no unfourtunatly the world we live in most of these charity requests time was not on the persons side as with pauls request with the boy losing his sight and things have to done quickly the only work mods do with with the sales is help update the main page with bids just to help out ian a little hope this clears things up a little