flew his old birds out to 200 mile alex and only lost one i think in the early races ,he had good returns from yb racing although they had plenty time on the wing for it ,think back to season 2000,2,3 cant remember when but we were down the west side qnd the first couple of races were great and had good returns ,everyone is racing from east and think there is more clashing than what hawks which are not restricted to one area they have supposedly feeding areas of forty miles so how much of the country does that take in