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He won thhe National but Spencer Jones won the Combine in that race with the only bird in the combine doing 1300,s

Im sure that Glyn told me when he visited early in the year that the Queens Cup Winner was lost in a training toss. He was full of pigeons on that visit, although he had been realy ill for a long time pity realy.

Merlin & Blain are from Alexanda & Princess.

Flying couriers seem very good they dont keep you or pigeons hanging around, when you phone them they get back to you stating when they will be in the area. Or the pick up area once they are picked up they keep you informed as to what time they will be delivered or if they are picking up they let you know in plenty of time to get them ready. When they called here they even had shavings to go in the boxes and good value at £25 up to 4 birds.

Are these the same birds that are on Pipa at the moment the winners & Ace Pigeons.

I gave a pair of y/bs to the CIN sale and dont know who has bought them yet. But i havent asked so hopefully i shall be told where they are to go shortly.

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Its advertised with body & ridewood in this weeks BHW £39 post paid.

Thats what you call them thanks never seen anything like them before, my wife liked the bird with the brown head, tail & flights, Micko you could well be right well done anyway enjoyed looking at them

Great pics of the birds nice to see them some real nice looking birds amoungst them very unusal specialy the ones where you can hardly see there heads.

Very nice type of pigeon whatever they are. Janssen x Van-loon?

My only problem with Louella is that the 3 times i have bought old stock birds (between 5 & 6 yrs old) one did,nt fill at all. Terrible service trying to get it sorted out and then they sent me a bird i did,nt real want as it was a cross bred cock and i purchased an inbred cock for a particuler purpuse i then sold for him for £500 the original bird cost me £1350. The other pair was so hit and miss i dont think i got 3 birds from the 2 birds in 3 yrs i did,nt complain as i had something from them. My cousin had the same problem with an expensive purchase they exchanged him twice no luck and then he gave it up as a bad job. As to the qaulity of these old stock birds could,nt fault them but if they cant replace an expensive purchase i think you should be given the choice to have your money back if your not 100% happy with the replacement.

I was at Pauls a few weeks ago, and i have to say his pigeons were outstanding and he is also a very nice chap to speak to. You wont go wrong with birds from him i cant comment on any of the other fanciers mentioned as i have never been to there lofts.

This was my original coment but its right now anyway lol

Hi Paul yes Carl,s No 1 fox cock Blue pied was from here it also had some G Burgess on one side as well as Eric Fox blood, As to the cock that bred the Liege National winner i sold him to Carl about 2yrs after he had the first 4 he was the nest mate to the Dk Cheq fox hen that he paired to the Blue Pied above to breed Carls double Pau winner. Incedently a g son of that Red Cock won 2nd Sec J NFC Pau 632 miles for a friend of mine he was also clocked from Palamos 722ml the following year. Hope this helps. Alun

Yes congratulations to everyone concerned on winning one of the WHPU trophy,s well done to you all.

Hello Archibald is a Lt Cheq Cock H78- 1640242 he is a brother to the Old 05, if you look at your original pedigree you will see the mistake you have made on this one. (91-1571505 is a grandaughter of Archibald)

I still have them i bought a full sister to "Superman" and later swaped the late Don Blakeway 1 from her for 1 from his famous Goris Pair this cock paired to a dtr of the superman hen bred very good birds especialy when crossed with the old Janssens. I also had from a friend in ireland a Red & Mealy cock from a old 019 janssen cock x Ritz hen these pigeons are still winning well for people its just that they are not so popular so you dont here so much about them.

The dam is also bred from the cock of the famous "Krom Pair" so she is a half sister to "Super 24" top racer breeder for Camphius he was the Sprint & Overall Champion of CC Zuthpen at 6 years old with his full brother in 2nd place. "Super 24"was also the g sire of Sangers "Young Gun" & MOG "Dominator" Archibald i believe is a full brother to "Old 05" Hope this is of some help and good luck .

Hi Paul sorry lol its Alun.

Hi Paul just seen the birds and they look well, have they got my old distance family on both sides ?

Im not 100% but i think you will find that the silver shadow van-loons also have the Tounier lines in there make up and this is where the grizzle colour comes from.

She dont come on here so im ok lol