John no sour grapes and well done to everybody that timed the controllers got it wrong mate a blind man could see what the pigeons were hitting surely it tells you when not a lot of pigeons are in the solway imo this was a disaster and yes theyres birds home and well done to everybody now that's 2 stinkers in a row we need to get professional help with the controlling of these races and a do believe the controllers have the birds best interests at heart but they've got it wrong again