Roland

Me likewise Peter, Bigger babbies and driving her back to the nest me...

Would have the them ALL Both races, and warm the Pot eggs up for when they came home. Next week though IS 'Hens' day! 300 miles, a wing open this week, a couple of chucks, and I'd be pooling them!

No eye theory there Albear... Indeed the Belgiums haven't even got a name for it! They have 'Fixers' who will pair up for a fee, but no eye peeping. Now Busschearts were mate thus, because he could even read about pigeons and never knew the Fanciers, but got them to breed the good from mating them. Now STR for example stated that all he ever did was handle the birds to decide what to buy! Saw a great article in that regards in the BHW just before his last 'Final' sale. I believe that the best British 'Stockman' or in top three to be safe as I didn't know them all, was of course Masserella. I have some articles still I'll sort out for you Albear sometime shortly and Ibelieve your find them interesting reading.

So sorry to hear that ... I feel if they have their freedom they should / will home back ok. Problem being how to entice through traps. Of course all set ups are different, but the main thing is for them now to see their mates / other pigeons when on Landing board.. Could always turn baskest up side daown with a appriate stick holding the flap uo. tied to string and line of feed into it I suppose. But that is time consuming and patience of the utmost.

Yes, and I still get peeved of with many fanciers' total regard for us when we report their' birds, especially when a member of the public is involved. They make you feel like your a pest and want omething better to do. But I just feel that they are the down side of this hobby, which every other hobby must have.

It wouldn't. But of course it would in the show pen, especially the 'Handling ones.

Friday, 4th of May, passed away at 15h30 after 5 weeks of intensive care. This is a big loss for the world wide pigeon sport !

So sorry to hear that, hope he can get sorted.

Spot on m8

Or a few days in the basket!

www.pigeonsincombat.com this is self explanatary.

Well I believe that most that aren't going to make the grade, or have somethin not quie righ, then the parents take care of the problem. I also blieve that the hen is smaller - usually - and the best bird out is a little hen. JMO

That Ronnie is really the parts that MAKE up the condition. None works ithout the others, must be a whole I believe. Can't get fitness say without first having contentment (biggest factor) ... I.e Wieght and mental state must also balance. If not correct wieght it can't be mentally right either and visa versa.

That is why must WIDOWER'S don't fly hens... though it matters not a jot, any rank hen there will do great. After all it's the Perch, the nest box that is the real essiential reason when in 'Form' they home well I believe.

Ever ready to put plan b into place, and never plan in 'Concrete'. eh! Very very true.

Great reply, good of yer. I will say in my expierence that it IS THE very ones who love the sport, have not only their's but the clubs,fed, indeed every fanciers best interest at heart and go out painstakingly each week from Thursday monitoring to getting up 4 in morning lib day and work hard up and down the Flight way via Phone and also the side from where the weather is coming in. And get paid nowt! I praise and honour each and everyone of the! See some loverly fella's brought to tears and ill healthy through ignorant self cads that harp on at them with a few brain dead cells.

Paulo you deserve every ounce of sucess you get, you have earned it. Take my hat off to you, wish I was still as keen...

Very true, that is after all the very basics as to why, and what we aim, strve to acheive.

So they don't hatch and keep the parents quiet and settled.

Seems to be the story that has gathered pace over the last few years ... 6 years ago I was atounded when I had a game keeper friend tell me fetch a injured bird. Was a cracker with wing Damage from up north. The Fancier told me that up there there were being roasted by the natural system flyers even on the short so called sprints. Our fed is dominated mostly by Natural, and as for distance, wel just look at the Nationals, especially the Hens! N4ed one look further?

Realistic and sensible matey. Glad to see it. I have silent 7 inch fans that extract and blow through. Haven't ever had to use them as of now. But as I have a false roof, with a wire roof on actual loft, that would be idea in warm breezeless days. I also saturate sacks and left them on lofts tops. These are great for keeping the loft cool.... just run a hose upon them on scorching days.

Does that apply still this season?

It's fine by me to leave you alone Jack... If you don't take a swipe, a cheap shot then ask! You state what, and how, you did or see things, then tell me I'm wrong, refer to my friends as lowlifes, and cast other aspertions... Then say 'Let it drop, that you don't want to discuss it etc. and to leave you lone! Blumming cheek!But that's fine also, just don't cast aspertions or untruths first then ask. So let's just let it drop, and you do what you do best and discuss Eye Theory'. I will certainly leave you alone then, as I know very little of that, except to say it is a theory and everyone to their own.

Lol so when making a hole with a pin and it's called a pin ----- it has expletives removed lol.

Saw a great topic once where it was that when a stray, or such landed the writer put a small worm down the birds neck. - Possible washed it a mite, or cleaned as such, but had them up and awa in no time. A jot of protien does work wonders.