OLDYELLOW

well i think the biggest problem will be stray returns , all unions should make all transporters carry a stray basket , i put my strays in a box with transporter driver and hes more than happy to help them on there way , as for buying birds well id make sure if i was buying i had visited loft and would be happy if not eager to bring any new pigeons to there new home ,

sue them lol they have gone bust so wouldnt get a jar of fart gas out of them

AMTRAK We have been advised that Amtrak has gone into liquidation with effect 22 August. We are currently making enquiries as to an alternative carrier. Here are some other couriers that may be able to help . Pigeon Courier Businesses Pigeon Express: E. HILL Mobile: 07912 977743 www.pigeonexpress.co.uk info@pigeonexpress.co.uk At present the service is only open to the South East Phantom Flyer : Roger Hughes 01329 664436 077099 13131 phantomflyer@onetel.net areas covered - Beds, Berks, Cheshire , Derbys, East Sussex, Dorset, Glos, Hants, Herefordshire, Herts, Leics, Northants, Oxon, Salop, Somerset, Staffs, Surrey, Warwicks, West Midlands, West Sussex, Wilts & Worcs Brighton, Weymouth, Crewkerne, Burnley, Blackburn, Preston, Hereford, Monmouth, Shrewsbury, Wrexham, south Wales & inside the M25 AM Deliveries / Mike Ellesmere Port Cheshire CH65 4LX tel: 0151 355 1533 fax: 0151 355 1533 mob: 0775 2161 3399 J Cooper Logistics Ltd National Coverage except North of Scotland but includes Ireland. Tel 01352 735555 or 07709 123125 Catch the Pigeon - Andy Bridges (ex Amtrak) 01623 440075 or 07731 649964 Covering Newcastle to Cumbria, South East to Bristol over a period of a week The company that has taken over Amtrak's orders will not move livestock. Peter Bryant

oops looks like Louella will have to have more costly away sales

bonfire night not too long away to stock up on some pocket rockets can hold and light and direct them to FRIGHTEN percy and his like away

and you'l never guess the R.P.R.A arent answering the phone , what are we paying our membership for ?

T.P.A shed are another one to stay clear of the design of my loft was wrong and the flooring wont support human weight and alot of knots fall out of wood that they put down to natural shrinkage i put i down to crap timber and the floor is made from match board yup you have got it they probably make matches out of it and aint fit for purpose.

how about clearing all the for sales and starting a fresh ? as then all will be veted , or it would give previous postings the benifit of no rules been enforced

in the current financial market with rising fuel costs and negative growth housing market at a stand still , i cant see anyone want to make amtrack an offer as they will no doubt be in the very same position , i guess this will become common place , my father inlaw lost his job as a delievery driver for another firm just because his route had become no longer viable and they was loosing money , welcome to the start of a recession

widowhood for me won from 86 miles to 512 miles on it

some might just be doing that

well done top flying

i think a few of the doom and gloom merchants need to get the sandwhich boards on and write 'the end is nigh' on them and walk around town , they be laughed at , im very optomistic about the future of pigeon racing , probably one of the most taken up activitys when people retire , yes people work and thats a deterent but ets will help a few more back , the last thing any new starter needs is to look at these type of threads and think bloody hell may as well get the latest console game at least they'll be able to buy the games for them , as for one loft races taking over it will never happen . Theres a few types of fanciers theres the ones that are in it purely for money and to line there pockets and theres the get rich quick via one loft racing due to the prestige it could bring and win big bucks , and theres the one's that loves there pigeons and the enjoyment they bring whether on top or on the bottom of the game . Those that have lost there heart for there pigeons arent fanciers there senders of pigeons i suggest that the latter are the doom and gloom merchants , and yes i do know of several clubs that will go to the wall because of lack of members but im sure theres solutions for the remaining members , such as flying with a nearby club , even if it means just flying for federation honors

yup an auction format would see a normal £35 bird go for double, you'd be quids in , and laughing all the way to the bank ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

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yup i read the birdage on the up north combine definately an area where pigeons are ingrained and wont die , thats looking at there birdage at present , and i cant seem to think i need to exit any board or passport control to get there

if new prospective pigeon racers read all this doom and gloom that will be enough for them not to invest in a new pigeon loft and birds to put in it , as for there not been many pigeon fliers in an area it will continue just clubs boundarys either have to open up or just die a death , if it came to a point that i was the last loft standing no competion and no way of increasing membership i'd be the first to move into an area where i could compete

wonder if there's an eagle owl hire in your area

aye but a lots of small couriers could start there own networks up , and help each other out

cheers tim hope you have a good race

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Very overcast sun just starting to burn through visability good with slight southerly breeze at Scarborough

Who are S.P.D.S ? If you gave AMDeliverys there contact information surely they could work something out between them , and cover the parts the other doesn't

01530 242255 Louella's number strike while the irons hot , anyone got Frank Sheaders number to give