OLDYELLOW

I have played Tiger Woods and beat him ;-) ..................................... but thats on the wii lol ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

wonder if i can have a pair of Extreme Blues now only joking ;-) ;D ;D ;D ;D

i dropped Jacks name as i know hes second to non when comes to eyes from proof of others i have seen for myself ;-) i would like to of known him better , his knowledge is vast but have conversed on a few occasions ;-) good to see your input Jack , it's guys like Jack that are pioneers for our great sport , his knowledge is the greatest input and a true gentleman of our sport and truely has my uttmost respect

twiddles thumbs ..................... whistles a while , been an intresting thread but still never heard of this guarenteed eye theory :X :X :X

;D ;D ;D ;D ;D any way enough of the other sex might get a slap ;-) please stay on topic ;-) who's the daddy ??????

i've noticed during a small argument they winge and nag on but if you realy try and have a real argument they wont speak to you fer whole day its worth the peace and quite to go that extra yard ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

i have mine on deep litter helps there immunity perches are scrapped every day tho ;-)

i did i got a divorce x2 ;D ;D ;D ;D

could be very theraputic for children with ADHD ;-) as im sure Bewted could comment on this

i believe it's vitamin D when i read the article many years ago , but im not 100% sure someone with a better memory will know ;-) or someone who read the article

i mentioned the breeding flytes first ;D ;D ;D ;D 8) , aye reminds me this joke : For sale Entire Encylopedia britanica hardly used full set , reason for sale is i've just got married and wife knows f-ing everything ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

i cant see why anyone would refuse such a test well the hen be 100% the dam but the sire may not so at least one could be determined by Dna and any man of his word would allow ;-)

i think Taylors loft of someone like Jack Barkel will know more about eyes i stil know a few basics which i mean to brush up again , but as i like colour birds and can determine colours from parings the best eyesign men can do near same with eye breeding and breed the colour eyes they wish some by deselection some by selction ;-)

everydays a school day Allan even i dont know everything ;-) but what little i do know ill openly share to keep this great sport going

please explain as i wish to share in this great knowledge as im baffled to know as ive had same eyed parents breed different eyes and two dif eyed parents breed totaly different eyes :-/ so as far as proof is concerned i think you have none and are left with no evidencial proof so now wont tell , but you did say it can be done and i fear it cant for the reasons i have given

thats correct Mick thats why i only ever buy hens in as there true line of herritage is from the dam unless each pair has its own flyte or each cock has 3 or more hens on bull this is one of the reasons i wont right a pedigree out as i think its more honest to breed good birds than a jumped up piece of paper unless as stated above seperate breeding pens

;D ;D ;D ;D nice one ;-)

theres sibbling test out now as Dna testing has somewhat come on leaps and bounds , so it still is possible ;-)

i take that you aint got a clue , when does the young birds eye change in colour ? the eye continuly changes in a full colour eye a yearlings eye can get better as say a 4 year old but if took two pictures one as yealing one as 4 year old of same eye they'd be different , spouting half baked facts thats your perogative been more factual is mine ;-)

Well from been a wee boy i have had pigeons via my great uncle and he kept both racers and fancy birds in two seperate lofts , and as long as i can rember these lofts were never cleaned very often and bone dry well ventilated and when i got older i cleaned them out , but these birds never ailed and were never treated for anything if ill it dint fit the bill so was removed , my uncle was a bit obsessed with the racers having fantails mainly the cocks so if a blue on had one id tell him knowing it be removed ;-) , well anyway i grew up was finaly allowed a loft bought a few pigeons ectra and kept them as pets no ailments no medications then decided to race disaster they werent up to it dropping werent right had various diseases , got friendly with a great fancier and he showed me the way of the medicine bottle and the vet had a great success but after 2 years of winning everything my birds werent fit for purpous , they were weak and why because too much treating and picked up everything in the basket going as i had weakened there immune systems . Now i have spent a few years a long with a vet and test for many years i went to the vet to test and i have treated when needed i've looked for natural products and have finaly arrived at a point where i dont treat i prevent using just a few products and work with there natural immunity , dry droppings are fine for your birds they can even get vitamins from eating them , i used to clean like i had a OCD , but now i enjoy my birds have deeplitter in 2 lofts others i scrape , i dont clean much during breeding as this can cause the birds stress however i do far better things like stoke the birds heads on the nest and play with the ybs better for them to be happy than clean ;-) at the moment as getting closer to racing my birds are getting cleaned out early morning and after first race be cleaned out twice a day , but as you can see if you want short term gain treat your pigeons within a inch of there life they'll win for 2 or 3 seasons by 4 th you'l be itching yer heed and wondering why same birds arent no good any more , Enjoy your birds ;-) 8)

please tell me how you can dermine a ybs eye ? be a bulleye perhaps you dont know as much as you purport ?????

Had to explain Dna testing to a Busheart great many years ago he was a millionaire so right up his street ;-) but i have never had a dna test for any pigeons i either like them and buy them or dont so regardless of who's the daddy i follow the true line of herritage that of the hen she lays the eggs so as the saying goes mummys baby , daddys maybe ;-)

ok in the case of a bull - eyed pigeon who would be the father if your still right you can check from the eyes rember eyes take time to develop properly so i would say only way of determing any sire is to ensure the pair is in its own flyte till eggs laid bull-eyed pigeons is a full colour eye you would find on a pied / grizzle or white , and doesnt show the eyes true full colour ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D what an IQ

Wrong you can dna the cocks against the young birds ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

i feel a post brewing ill type one when i get back from the school run ;-)