OLDYELLOW

buy some fullers earth cat litter

add bowls and nesting material = they'll build nests = then mate then eggs will come it's nature thought you had just got them ??

with fancy birds they dont like alot of the bigger beans and pulses ,they prefer small maples , mung beans , tares , popcorn maize , paddy rice and wheat and dari and a very small amount of linseed

what brand is your first mix ???? sunflower seeds will put fat on birds hence why there use sparingly in mixes , what type of pigeon are you feeding ???

yours are too young they wont pair till they mature

down to nature they'll naturaly pair when ready thats true in a loft full but not if hens were on there own lol , but as you say have known spare hens to hatch there eggs as long as a cock present

simple maths you say you have 3 cocks one hen and one more sex unknown well as i said if that be a hen you'l have a spare cock plus 2 pairs you could always keep spare cock in another section and after first round split and repair

R.I.P may our thought be with his family and friends at this sad time

if it lays eggs you'l be in luck and have a spare cock

aye cock and hen together two cocks wont lay eggs two hens will tho but wont hatch

nice story of a great bird Derek

thought he sold up ???? is it a empty loft film ???

your right there , also check out local timber yards i got my loft base made with similar sized tanalised boards

use last img code

i asked first lol

there whites in white boxes in a white loft photo taken in snow

agree with ya

alot of the continental fanciers do same thing they stroke and tease the birds on nest so by time they get moved there pretty tame anyway

well if you havent got a pair of both sexes then maybe wise to let them hatch the eggs as may of been fertilised by other birds where you bought them

between 16 to 21 days

http://www.hermes-pigeon.de/uk/index.html

cracking bird

it takes time to gain the birds confidence then you have to learn a technique where you catch them firm but gentily , rember the birds first thought is there been attacked by a pediter , all movements in a loft should be slow and you should always be calm

best not to catch whilst feeding otherwise they wont get tame because they'll associate eating with been caught catch them in there boxes

Old lofts bring with them alot of nastys if you get one disinfect before using at least with a self build you can build exactly as you want