SHU MEETING THIS SUNDAY

[me]

"it would appear that desperate men do deserate things"

 

 

how what did they do T3DOO joining a fed from outer mongolia and give it voting powers to help themselves get elected?

 

 

 

 

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[frank-123]

well i think its good as one man has not got all the power

met john Barlow  a few times seemed quite a nice guy but lost a very lot of credibility  with his movement from lanarkshire to the west of Scotland fed

 

 

is that not walking away just the same as the walkers who you referred to in an earlier post

 

to me both groups should have stayed and fought from within

[t3doo]

well i think its good as one man has not got all the power

met john Barlow  a few times seemed quite a nice guy but lost a very lot of credibility  with his movement from lanarkshire to the west of Scotland fed

 

 

is that not walking away just the same as the walkers who you referred to in an earlier post

 

to me both groups should have stayed and fought from within

 

not quite bart after all john barlow stayed with the shu, and stayed to fight his corner so to speak, and the thing is as someone on the forum said it was going to be a dirty fight at the march meeting, how right they were, as i said before my sympathy to john barlow i only hope he can work with the schemers and lets get on with racing the doos and give the politics a rest.

cheers

[Guest]

Question was raised asking if a candidate can vote for himself. In telephone call with my Secy other day, he confirmed that he / she can and does. If Scott had been standing, he would have been voting for himself.

 

Not unusual, happened in our old High School Monitor elections, and what some here are appearing to suggest is that a candidate should vote for his rival.

 

Lastly, doesn't matter a jot to the maths of fisrt-past-the-post: result as is was 14/12. Result minus candidates votes would have been 13/11. Much ado about nothing springs to mind.

[t3doo]

Question was raised asking if a candidate can vote for himself. In telephone call with my Secy other day, he confirmed that he / she can and does. If Scott had been standing, he would have been voting for himself.

 

Not unusual, happened in our old High School Monitor elections, and what some here are appearing to suggest is that a candidate should vote for his rival.

 

Lastly, doesn't matter a jot to the maths of fisrt-past-the-post: result as is was 14/12. Result minus candidates votes would have been 13/11. Much ado about nothing springs to mind.

 

well put bruno,. after all how many times do you see it on the telly politicians at the ballot boxes voting for themselfs.

cheers.

[Guest]

"it would appear that desperate men do deserate things"

 

 

how what did they do T3DOO joining a fed from outer mongolia and give it voting powers to help themselves get elected?

 

 

 

 

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Your knowledge of geography is more than a wee bit sketchy. What SHU Feds bound Lanarkshire on the North & West?

 

And I wonder if the reasons the man went to another fed were twofold:

 

(1) Heartily sick of some of the people he had to associate with in the other fed (er sorry, didn't have to associate with)

 

(2) Help make up the numbers in a fed struggling for members?

 

 

[Guest]

and your sure that mr nobal voted for himself and i take it you think that voting for yourself is the gentmanly thing to do for the president of the shu the words SAD and DESPERATE spring to mind but at least you have now nailed your true colours to the mast Bruno so now you might do the right thing and give up the moderaters post or will you vote for yourself?

[Guest TAMMY_1]

 

 

AND YOU WONDER WHY THE SHU IS A LAUGHING STOCK !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[johno]

bruno you are using your powers of prediction again. your post 105. the sarconic touch applied when you are grasping for explanations in a failed attempt to defend the underhand and ill conceived actions of the shu president show you in an extremely poor light. your comment about bolstering fed numbers is one of the most insulting and derogatory to members of this board i have ever witnessed. i will say no more but will let this rest with you.

[Guest]

and your sure that mr nobal voted for himself and i take it you think that voting for yourself is the gentmanly thing to do for the president of the shu the words SAD and DESPERATE spring to mind but at least you have now nailed your true colours to the mast Bruno so now you might do the right thing and give up the moderaters post or will you vote for yourself?

 

I simply pointed out that voting for yourself is the 'Normal' thing to do in some elections, as is the case in this one. I did not give an opinion on whether it was right or wrong, only that it made no difference to the outcome. And while you expect gentlemanly conduct from him, would you describe your own position towards him as the same?

 

Don't know about Mr Noble, but again, if he didn't vote, it would have been 13/12 or 14/11, so again, made no difference to the outcome.

 

And here we have the really sad things:

 

(1) You question processes and standing procedures AFTER the election was held, rather than (as I did) BEFORE it was held. Why?

 

(2) Because you disagree with my personal opinion, I have to stand down as Moderator? Shall I also have to leave the SHU or   PTA, Friends of the Earth, The Yellow Moon Society too?      What has my personal opinion to do with being a Moderator?

[Guest]

bruno you are using your powers of prediction again. your post 105. the sarconic touch applied when you are grasping for explanations in a failed attempt to defend the underhand and ill conceived actions of the shu president show you in an extremely poor light. your comment about bolstering fed numbers is one of the most insulting and derogatory to members of this board i have ever witnessed. i will say no more but will let this rest with you.

 

I think the word you are struggling for is deduction; as in 'powers of deduction' : working out possible scenarios from scant info available.

 

Irrespective of what social setting (society) we belong,  if our presence there is overtly unwelcome, or perceived to be unwelcome, we move on. There's some folks have been talking about Human Rights Articles, the right of Association. Well it includes the right not to be associated (keep company with) with people that have , for example, no respect for you. What Mr Barlow did, in this context, is within both his rights and the SHU Rules.

 

And as for 'Dumbarton' and delegate position. Why go there when any other fed would probably have elected him an SHU delegate based on his past experience alone? If the WoS Fed was struggling for numbers, it would have been the gentlemanly thing for him to have gone there, and he would have been made more than welcome for that.

 

 

[Guest TAMMY_1]

What is the yellow moon society that you are a member of Bruno ? ;D ;D

[johno]

bruno you appear to have gone mad.

[johno]

like most people i am not an all knowing fountain of knowledge. then again i am not a person who claims to be able to predict what other people mean to say.

[Guest]

Bruno i dont have a problem with your oppinion on any of the matters on this form but please dont kid people on that you are neutral on this subject you are entilted to your views the same as me regarding Mr Barlow and the procedures used on sunday i am sure he has the same right as any one to come on here and give his version of the fiasco maybe t3doo might ans. on his behalf But here is a question maybe you could ans. at the stage in the producers when you are dealing with election of officals is it 2006 business or 2007? i was allways led to belive that up until the election of officals it is last years business so Mr Barlow had no vote as the Lanarkshire delagates were present it was only after the new officals are in position he would then be representing "west of Scotland"only after this stage the new delagates should take their place!!!!

[Guest]

bruno you appear to have gone mad.

 

No, Johno, that's your party, 'The wired-to-the-Moon' Society.  ;D

[Guest]

Bruno i dont have a problem with your oppinion on any of the matters on this form but please dont kid people on that you are neutral on this subject you are entilted to your views the same as me regarding Mr Barlow and the procedures used on sunday i am sure he has the same right as any one to come on here and give his version of the fiasco maybe t3doo might ans. on his behalf But here is a question maybe you could ans. at the stage in the producers when you are dealing with election of officals is it 2006 business or 2007? i was allways led to belive that up until the election of officals it is last years business so Mr Barlow had no vote as the Lanarkshire delagates were present it was only after the new officals are in position he would then be representing "west of Scotland"only after this stage the new delagates should take their place!!!!

 

 

As I have already made clear from my questions on both the election for President, and the correct delegate procedure, I don't have sufficient grip on SHU affairs to even begin to answer your question, Frank, nor do I know when Mr Barlow left Lanarkshire Fed (or even if he did) or joined West of Scotland Fed (or even if he did).  

 

And as I have also said before, it is my personal opinion that the correct forum to place questions like that and to get the true facts, is the SHU Office. On neutrality in these matters; as I have said before, when the other party is being dragged thro the mud and not here or not in a position to defend themselves, and   irrespective who that person is or what they have supposed to have done ... and I do not know Mr Barlow or Mr Noble from Adam ... I will defend as Devil's Advovate ... by showing that there are at least two sides to every story, and that allegations remain exactly that until all the facts are exposed i.e. someone comes up with incontrovertible proof one way or the other.

[johno]

moderate seems to have gone out the window. any opinion will be analysed as wrong. it is a pity other people exist in your world bruno. you seem to have lost all sense of right and wrong. you appear to be over reacting and obsessing.  once again you admit you do not have enough knowledge to pass a substatiated opinion. this however is all thrown to the wind when your obsessive need to be an authority takes over. you are only highlighting the frailty of your position.

[Guest]

moderate seems to have gone out the window. any opinion will be analysed as wrong. it is a pity other people exist in your world bruno. you seem to have lost all sense of right and wrong. you appear to be over reacting and obsessing.  once again you admit you do not have enough knowledge to pass a substatiated opinion. this however is all thrown to the wind when your obsessive need to be an authority takes over. you are only highlighting the frailty of your position.

 

 

What is your answer to the question that Frank asked me?

 

 

[JADE]

 

AND YOU WONDER WHY THE SHU IS A LAUGHING STOCK !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

If anyone is a laughing stock it is the handful of idiots on here led by Frank (non SHU member) who criticise and find fault with anything and everything to do with the SHU. They wouldnt recognise a good president if they saw one. John Barlow is the best man by far for the job and has done a first class job under difficult circumstances. I doubt if he will hang around for much longer but I feel it is only right that he should lead the SHU during its centenary year. No federation in their right mind would vote off the sitting SHU president as their delegate.

[johno]

unlike yourself bruno i attempt to answer questions i have been asked. if i can do this i feel that i tend not to expose my limitations to others who would have us believe they have a superior intelect. as you have in another post stated that you have in your opinion a better understanding of the english language than i posess i fail to understand why you would trust me to decipher franks question on your behalf.

[doos r us]

a quick reply for oldbird i like it in outer mongolia its a lot better than chryston

[doos r us]

no its not jb its a dig at the kid on glw fed your more than welcolm to come down to c our lofts and c real doo men and some quality pigeons wee mick mite let u handle his sec winner

[Guest]

unlike yourself bruno i attempt to answer questions i have been asked. if i can do this i feel that i tend not to expose my limitations to others who would have us believe they have a superior intelect. as you have in another post stated that you have in your opinion a better understanding of the english language than i posess i fail to understand why you would trust me to decipher franks question on your behalf.

 

So you don't know the answer either?  ;D

[johno]

i have the decency common sense and principle not to attempt to second guess what people mean. even more so when their question is not directed at me. the implication of your post no 123 inferring that i do not know the answer either is that you do not know. this i suggest indicates that frank has managed what many have failed to do. left you incapable of providing a response. i am sure if you take the time and refer to the dictionary often enough you will eventually grasp the meaning of the content of franks post you are referring to.