SHU COUNCIL MEETING 7th MAY 07

[Guest TAMMY_1]

JUST READ JORE MURPHYS REPORT IN THIS WEEKS BHW ABOUT THE COUNCIL MEETING, WAS EXPECTING TO SEE QUITE A BIT, AS A LOT WENT ON, WELL IT DISNAE TAKE UP MUCH ROOM ANYWAY

[doos r us]

since hans could not be bothered to show at agm answer to question 1 wont be in the book frank or the publishers might be in trouble

[doos r us]

well you can only print facts frank

[Guest]

do you believe that this is the right thing for the shu to do doo,rus?or is this not the dictarship marching all over members again? maybe this post should be moved aswell

[doos r us]

that will depend on whats in it frank at this stage it seems it will have to wait till agm then the members will decide which should have happened all along instead of the constant bickering

[Guest]

thats the point the members cant decide anything at the agm its all done at the spring meeting with the councilers thats whats wrong with our sport the members dont even have a say in it thats why they have pulled the flanker to stay in power and before you say the delagates can decide fifer that might have been the case a long time ago its not that now how can the members trust the presendent to be fair at anything when he did what he did to get back on the council so the members must ask why would anyone pull all thease moves to stay in power after all if you were getting all this hastle would you stay i think not SO WHY!!!!!???????????

[Guest]

Frank surely members can make changes, at the AGM.

 

Reading J Murphy's postage stamp script in BHW 18th May on the meeting, seems October Council meeting may have more to say on it with motions for AGM.

 

Speaking to two clubmates about it tonight: they did not know about : 5 members needed to make a fed. Only two folk, but both thought it wasn't right.

 

[THE FIFER]

thats the point the members cant decide anything at the agm its all done at the spring meeting with the councilers thats whats wrong with our sport the members dont even have a say in it thats why they have pulled the flanker to stay in power and before you say the delagates can decide fifer that might have been the case a long time ago its not that now how can the members trust the presendent to be fair at anything when he did what he did to get back on the council so the members must ask why would anyone pull all thease moves to stay in power after all if you were getting all this hastle would you stay i think not SO WHY!!!!!???????????

 

i see what u are talking about but i still say its the members who tell delegates SHU COUNCILORS) what to do, or should, if they dont do as mandated then they should be pulled up in front of the members and delt with, surely how many members in the fed and they have what 2 delegates and 2 are overpowering the members, ok i know it happens in my fed but its because i and maybe another hand full speak up about delegates getting mandated but the majority just dont bother so its hitting ur head against a wall, but its still the members to blame for not mandating delegates,

 

 

[doos r us]

but now members are aware somthings not right prop/sec 28 days before agm its got to be to be voted on dont keep blaming my members for taking advantage of the rule book we did not write it the forum members know well the position we were in

[me]

but now members are aware somthings not right prop/sec 28 days before agm its got to be to be voted on dont keep blaming my members for taking advantage of the rule book we did not write it the forum members know well the position we were in

 

 

what position was that then Doosrus? You did'nt have an Shu President as a non competing member to boost your very small club membership to about 6 and a half?

 

[doos r us]

when i find out what a nad half is i let u know

[me]

when i find out what a nad half is i let u know

 

Eh????????????????????????????????????????????????????????

 

 

[doos r us]

thats what i said when you said 6 members

[doos r us]

fifers hit the nail on the head in all my years with the glw fed i dont remember the delegate s report to the members thats because it never happend and iam sure mosts feds the same the ordinery fancier just aint interested and even now 85 % probibly still dont care a jot  as can be seen by the attendance at agms

[me]

thats what i said when you said 6 members

 

Wel thats a lot clearer to "me" now ! You been on the bevvy Doosrus?

 

 

[doos r us]

stella  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

[me]

stella  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

 

Whit you no on the cider and babycham the night take it you are no looking for a man!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

 

[doos r us]

no ht in a dress would be nice

[Guest]

no they cant bruno try putting any proposal in that affects the top table and it will be refaired to the spring meeting or put out on sum drumed up techncality it just wont hapen it has allready been passed at an agm that the officals will be decided at the agm and mr barlow over turned it at the spring meeting so it falls on the councilers to beat them and i dont think that will happen soon he has allready started making tracks to remove the oppision (scott gibson) and possibly more but i suppose they are working on the thery cut off the serpants head and so on but i think they will have a fight on their hands if i know scott ive been ten rounds with him he wont give in !!! when he is right and he is 100% on this one (hate to admit that scott) but you are just watch your back or you will be branded a disadent like me!!!

[johno]

there is now in excess of 143 posts on this single thread. it appears that nearly 100% of posters agree there is something seriously wrong within the shu. many suggestions have been made as to the what the problem is. many suggestions also as to how to attempt to remedy the problem. as someone who has been hounded and ridiculed for posting information on a good number of the points now raised by others i repeat once again. the running and reputation of the organisation falls wholely on the shoulders of the president and their officials, both paid and unpaid. the continued need for a significant number of unhappy members to post regarding the actions and example being set by the officials is a clear indicator of the seriousness and gravity of the current situation within the shu. it is also necessary to point out this thread has run and run with little or no input from any of the so called walkaways or posters like me who have been attacked for posting and raisng these issues for two or three years now. the problems being discussed are 100% the property of the shu. no one else to blame. no place to hide.

[Guest]

lLittle point in blaming officials - we after all elected them, albeit indirectly. If we are unhappy with them, we should also be able to remove them by voting for someone else.

 

The only thing clear about this whole sorry mess is that it came about thro members' apathy. If anyone is to blame it is us for letting it happen.

 

[ALF]

lLittle point in blaming officials - we after all elected them, albeit indirectly. If we are unhappy with them, we should also be able to remove them by voting for someone else.

 

The only thing clear about this whole sorry mess is that it came about thro members' apathy. If anyone is to blame it is us for letting it happen.

 

JOHN BARLOW WAS'NT ELECTED IN AS PRESIDENT AS SUCH BRUNO HE GOT IN AFTER BENNY MARTIN WALKED OUT AT THE AGM IN MOTHERWELL CIVIC CENTRE

[Guest]

bullied out alf and fifer had a lot to do with that along with mr barlow maybe fifer could tell us if he had anything to do with that as well i dont think fifer is the type to run for a lawers letter might be someone told him too!!!if so that would blow the lid on what mr barlow is capable off? come on fifer tell us!!!! you could save the shu in one move

[frank-123]

just seems to me there is no need for delgates to the shu why not get rid of the delgates three men voted into position at the agm voting papers sent to the members with the balance sheet they are returned unopened at the agm then the count could take place at the agm

the three members elected run the shu until the following agm

 

the three members must come from diffrent feds the man with most votes takes the chair

good or bad idea what do you think

[Guest]

 

JOHN BARLOW WAS'NT ELECTED IN AS PRESIDENT AS SUCH BRUNO HE GOT IN AFTER BENNY MARTIN WALKED OUT AT THE AGM IN MOTHERWELL CIVIC CENTRE

 

President office is agm to agm, Alan. JB was elected President 14 / 12 at March 2007 Council Meeting; as I said in my previous post - we voted him in, if any 'body' is to 'blame' for him being there, it's us, the membership.

 

We put him there thro collective default - apathy, and a fed delegate system that has fallen into serious disrepair by the sounds of it.