ETS Time Penaltys!

[Lennut Tar]

 

Dont really know a lot about ets but im bit confused by what you are saying  Are you allowed to only time in so many entries with ets i was always under the impression that it timed in as many birds that landed on the pads whereas with a clock most you can only time in 20 birds unless of course you have a Paloma that takes more birds   Cant see where the advantage of  being able to take my clock from loft to loft when the ets is timing in birds continously to upto 3 lofts or sections at the same time without having to be moved

 

I find it quite amazing etc, the friction & anger at times here & on other local sites, (Quite Sad) in regard to Electronic Clocks. I just don't understand why it is this way. I race in a club/fed where we have both the old way & the new EC system in place & it just doesn't cause this friction at all. In fact !!!!!! to be quite honest with you, they show at times, how certain pigeon flyers etc, stretch the truth somewhat  ;D ;D ;D when you read their print outs   ;) . Of course !!!!! we only have 1 bird clocking in most races Which has never been a problem in my area, for most of us. Except if your a "Disgruntled Pom" who has voiced his opinion recently  ;D ;D ;D on a couple of other local sites we all know ??????  : : :. When one brings it right down to the nitty critty type of thing ?????, you are talking about 1 or 2 maybe 3 seconds etc difference between the different clocking systems, & for most of us most of the time  ;D ;D ;D know, it's someone else, worrying about those few seconds etc on race day   ;) . Pigeon racing has never had a level playing field so to speak, so forget about all this animosty & get on & just race your birds & enjoy them. For what the are, "Little treasures" at least while they are on the perch.

Enjoy

 

 

[Guest Paulo]

 

rose is correct in what she says if you use three pads why can,t you use three clocks one for each loft that you have instead of carrying from loft to loft each time you time,rpra rules you have one clock set per race ,what your saying is that you have three pads set for one race ,do you think thats fair , to me it looks like you have a big advantage in my book and your able to spread them out when they are all connected up and your talking about discrimination as far as i could see your being greedy and people who are like that want more,more ,and more , that is not an equal playing field at all ,everybody should be made equal but i,m afraid that will never happen in our sport there is allways someone looking to get one over the rest, another rule is that all pads must be sealed inside the loft , how many abide with that rule i wonder and break the rules or does your secy check each and everyone to see that its adhered to it would be very interesting just to find out ,           (oh to be a fly on the wall)  HAVE GOOD RACING IN 2008

 

I agree with you two

[Guest Paulo]

the , DDA was used to bring ets in the back door , the money men had barrister's lined up to take the rpra to the cleanner's . i still want a loft vote , if its voted in that it  , if its voted out  , i will box mine and stick it in the cupboard ,

 

Thats what annoyed me about the NEHU's underhanded way of bringing it in it should have been a loft by loft vote

[pjc]

Spin Cycle, yes most companys will provide the club equiptment, which I beleive consists of the reader, printer and software. For a start what if the club doesn't have a computer to use the software on?

Also does the reader need power/electricity?

Our club house has no electric so if it is required then how could we be forced to use it?

[Guest spin cycle]

fair comment pjc.not sure ours has a 13 amp socket. but in my theory club officials can be made to use ets or face diciplinary action due to the change in wording(assuming they have power).the only other thing clubs could do is to refuse the free equip. thus 'not having the neccessary equip.'

[Taylorsloft]

i use ets and would like to see time penaltes on stall traps and members who race sprinters cos i think thats not fare .am sick of members saying ets in not fare.in this game you make your own fareness.to all those that are against ets if your not happy pack up you pigeons

[pjc]

Its a funny sport, if members can't win in there own club they run away and join another or form a breakaway and are then happy to win in a second division club. Then new members join and they start to slip down the sheet and move again!

Why don't people just raise there game each time a challenge is put infront of them?

If you've got a top fancier in your club then raise your game and compete.

ETS is no different there are to many people who think that ETS will make crap win races, the winners will still be the top fanciers and the dross will still be holding the sheet up.

No offence intended to Dross!

 

Phil

[rembrant2coo]

i use ets and would like to see time penaltes on stall traps and members who race sprinters cos i think thats not fare .am sick of members saying ets in not fare.in this game you make your own fareness.to all those that are against ets if your not happy pack up you pigeons

 

i presume mr taylor thats a joke you have just made i hope , if not how would you like to fly to an allotment and don,t say get a car battery , i have no intenion of doing so so you want every one who does,nt have ets and are not happy to pack in the pigeons you are a sad individual mr taylor

[Taylorsloft]

i raced to allotment for 23 years. nobody likes moaners am just sick listning to the moans and groans thats being going on for years if you cant stand the heat get out of the kichen

[THE FIFER]

 

Dont really know a lot about ets but im bit confused by what you are saying  Are you allowed to only time in so many entries with ets i was always under the impression that it timed in as many birds that landed on the pads whereas with a clock most you can only time in 20 birds unless of course you have a Paloma that takes more birds   Cant see where the advantage of  being able to take my clock from loft to loft when the ets is timing in birds continously to upto 3 lofts or sections at the same time without having to be moved

 

no rose with ETS u can time in as many as you want, what i was saying is only being allowed to have 3 pads, limits u to the size of ur entry, or stall traps as they are fixed and u must have them where the birds drop in, if you had say 3 lofts with 1 pad on each you would only be able to have a 2 hole stall trap on each, where with the conventional clock you could have stall traps with as many holes as you want,

 

 

[rembrant2coo]

i raced to allotment for 23 years. nobody likes moaners am just sick listning to the moans and groans thats being going on for years if you cant stand the heat get out of the kichen

 

i,ve been in the heat mate all the time in a hot bed of long distance heat you have no idea what your talking about you did,nt have ets when you were there and inthe cicumstances thats happened beside you and the lottery grant you probably woud,nt have it now , your sad you are

[Taylorsloft]

i have 2 ets as soon as it was passed by the shu  i had 1. now i have 2

[pjc]

Fifer, some of the pads cover 4 holes depending on the make.

Its worth looking at the pad sizes available before buying, in my mind i want the biggest pads available to allow for largest traps I can have on each loft!

 

Phil

[Guest spin cycle]

i use ets and would like to see time penaltes on stall traps and members who race sprinters cos i think thats not fare .am sick of members saying ets in not fare.in this game you make your own fareness.to all those that are against ets if your not happy pack up you pigeons

 

nice sentiment!! at least you're honest....ets is about 'survival of the fittest'? and   ' if you don't like it pack up and get out'. is this what ets is really about? i thought it was to help disabled people into our 'sport'

[THE FIFER]

 

Guess i better admit to an even bigger advantage on this one I havent got stall traps I have only ever raced to open doors  ;D ;D ;D

 

 

we have a member in our club Rose who has ets and he has open door, and has his pads fixed so birds time in, but there is advantage on both sides, there was always an advantage with those who had stall traps to those who had to go into the loft and catch the bird and get the rubber off and clock it, but no matter what clock your bird must be home,

 

[Guest chrisss]

U DONT HAVE TO WAIT FOR YOUR CLUB

 

oh trust me on this i do :D :D :D :D

[Guest chrisss]

i [as some of you might be aware]am in my first year of racing,

was there this much trouble when the t-3 clocks first came out, IE were people running around saying that the "new clock"[t3] gives you an advantage over the "old clocks" please don't get me wrong here i am not for or against ets [i don't know enough about it]

[THE FIFER]

 

There will always be advantages and disadvantages but i still cant understand why if i got 2 lofts in my garden and 2 people their timing in the birds 1 in each loft i should not be allowed to have 2 clocks one in each loft same as someone with ets would be allowed to have 1 pad on each loft timing in the birds at the same time  :-/

 

 

i see what you mean, dont know the rpra rules on lofts but with shu if lofts are (cant remember the exact length) a certain distance apart they are classed as one loft, if more than this distance they are classed as 2 lofts ie, loft 1 and loft 2, so in the latter you would be allowd to have 2 clocks as birds are registered to the different lofts,

 

[Guest valiant]

why dont you put this to sleep as the there are no penaltys and it hear to say it been in our club for five year now and had no problems.

[Roland]

i use ets and would like to see time penaltes on stall traps and members who race sprinters cos i think thats not fare .am sick of members saying ets in not fare.in this game you make your own fareness.to all those that are against ets if your not happy pack up you pigeons

 

Twallop ... But better still, let's have 'Non Et Clocking clubs only', where A. Disabled fanciers would be welcome .... but not voted in of course.  - That is prevalent today and not classed as discriminate! Then let the rest of the self center attitude people fly against each other. They would be the 'Haves' with ET's

Now that would be good... except it wouldn't work they would pack up when there were no plebes left to take advantage of. Mind be able to set up fairer section etc. and have a total overall, and put into place decent sections etc. and more better and fairer races for the plebes.

[cricketer]

hi all,

pot,kettle and black come to mind with the disabled discrimination act as far as pigeon fanciers and the rpra are concerned i think and this is how,if i apply for membership of say club a,i need to be voted in by the members,but then again the members can vote not to let me in for no reason,now thats discrimination.