E.T.S. Last time.

[Guest Vic]

During a conversation with the Western Region secretary, who is also secretary of the  local Wednesday club, the Sefton Midweek, the usage of the  ETS came up. You will be looking for another secretary! he declared! If ETS ever gets in here.

 

Now I am led to believe that he  has got his way, because the assocciating club. the Fazackerly will not accept the ETS System. Yet there are members within these clubs AND ANOTHER LOCAL CLUB  to boot, who are opting for the ETS System.  and are tri members of the three clubs involved. Should the minorities rule the roost sez vic? Little Hitler or What?  

[DOVEScot]

Sounds a bit like maving your cake and eating it too, if thet are tri members

[Guest Vic]

Sounds a bit like maving your cake and eating it too, if thet are tri members

 

Come down, you clown, cos I caint understand  your brogue.

[Guest jamesa]

get the ets members to do the secretary job and maybe they can have it but i bet that wont happed :'( :'( :'(

[Roland]

Well only one club has opted for the ET's in our federation, and only one flyer in my South rd club.

Am in the South Rd, and in two clubs North Rd.

Now say I bought a ET Clock, the  nearest Marking Station for the NRCC club don't have and aren't interested to say the least in ET clocking for them .... now that would mean 70 miles each way trip to one that maybe. But within a year or two I feel this will change.

[Merlin]

Its only a matter of time till E,T,S, will be used by all "competitive"members no competitive fancier will give another the edge in any aspect, shape, or form, this is down to human nature,I would never opt for it,but will not give any competitor "time" to beat me,as yet we dont use it,but it only takes one to start its introduction,in the bigger picture its not helping this game of ours in any way,much more urgent issues that needs attention.

[pjc]

If I was one of the tri members I would send my birds with a club that uses ETS and duplicate them into the anti club!

Sure then other members will start and do the same, non of the members would bother going to the anti club then!

Sure the sec would soon change his mind!

 

Phil

[THE FIFER]

once you get using ETS you will find all its advantages, I was against it when it was first introduced, but now wonder how we managed without it.

[joe61]

this is where the RPRA i fear is lacking when the ETS was tested and cleared to come in to the sport the RPRA should have made a rule stating  ie  all affiliated members to the RPRA must be useing the ETS SYSTEM by the end of 2008 or they will not be eligable to race in 2009 then we would not have this im for it and im not debate the region sec must be of the old school stick to what i am safe with we dont need to PROGRESS

[gangster]

ive got to agree with joe61 on this , rpra doing what they do best dragging there heels.....MAKE A DECISION AND THATS THE END OF IT!!!!!!!!!!

[Guest scoobybob]

I am new to the sport but soon will have to purchase some form of clocking system. If I purchase a std clock for manual clocking will I have wasted my money as the ETS system looks like its here to stay. What is the objection with ETS? to me it sounds like the ETS is the best system to have.

[DOVEScot]

 

Come down, you clown, cos I caint understand  your brogue.

 

Ok just for you vic, if they are members of three different clubs who all have different systems then the can opt for any one they like, whether it be ETS or clock

Maybe I misunderstood your definition of tri members

Best regards

DOVEScot the clown  ;D ;D ;D

[Guest chrisss]

this is where the RPRA i fear is lacking when the ETS was tested and cleared to come in to the sport the RPRA should have made a rule stating  ie  all affiliated members to the RPRA must be useing the ETS SYSTEM by the end of 2008 or they will not be eligable to race in 2009 then we would not have this im for it and im not debate the region sec must be of the old school stick to what i am safe with we dont need to PROGRESS

 

i do tend to agree with the above my club got a grant,and went out and brought t3s for everyone to use,the ets would have cost around the same but no one wanted it [i was not in the club then]most of my fellow club members are on average about 105 years old [as they are in most clubs sadly]so no one wanted change i am stunned that some of my fellow fanciers use cars to train,whether you agree with ets or not it is here to stay and in the end most people will use it,to keep up they will have too.

 

[Guest IB]

See Peter Bryant put a clarification of ETS rules in BHW 11th April:-

 

clubs can't refuse ETS;

no time penalties on fanciers using ETS;

 

 

That seems clear enough.  :X

[Guest Vic]

But, if nobody is willing to touch the system, in the club. What can one do?

[jimbobboy]

Jimbobboy says:   We use both old and Unikon systems in our club Scoobybob.  I just got back into flying and too much money for me to lay out!!!  If your whole or a lot of flyers buy teel them to get a big discount from ETS- vendor!!!  I'll say one thing about it!!  It's as good as apple  pie and Chevolet!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  Once system is in place.

[superstar]

But, if nobody is willing to touch the system, in the club. What can one do?

 

Educate and convert the non believers! Get them to visit a club and lofts where ETS is already in use and if they are not sold on it there and then have a complete change of officials in the club concerned at the next AGM or better still fly in a more modern thinking club and leave the old school to themselves

[mad dog]

 

Educate and convert the non believers! Get them to visit a club and lofts where ETS is already in use and if they are not sold on it there and then have a complete change of officials in the club concerned at the next AGM or better still fly in a more modern thinking club and leave the old school to themselves

 

         just got 1 and love it :)

[sammy]

and leave the old school to themselves ,if it was not for the old old school yi wouldnt have the calibre of pigeons you have to day and there is more important issues than squabling over a timming system  

[superstar]

and leave the old school to themselves ,if it was not for the old old school yi wouldnt have the calibre of pigeons you have to day and there is more important issues than squabling over a timming system  

 

Exactly and thats why I would go somewhere else to use it if i had to. And well we ETS users are thanking them for a better calibre

of Pigeon maybe they will thank us for introducing them to a much better clocking system?

[Pompey Mick]

As a secretary who has just felt his way through 25 ETS systems and 25 members worth of ring allocation I can quite understand other Secretaries being reluctant to take on this work load.  I am pro ETS, but it has been a long learning curve, and the recent updates haven't helped.

But every cloud has a silver lining and I inputted 16 members birds (127) directly into the FSS race program in a matter of minutes directly from the clocks.

Basketting went quite smoothly, no hiccups with the birds, printing the sheets took a little time. Clock checking was very relaxed and the results went a dream (apart from my own performance). If it carries on like this it has been worth the extra work.

[PIGEON_MAN]

As a secretary who has just felt his way through 25 ETS systems and 25 members worth of ring allocation I can quite understand other Secretaries being reluctant to take on this work load.  I am pro ETS, but it has been a long learning curve, and the recent updates haven't helped.

But every cloud has a silver lining and I inputted 16 members birds (127) directly into the FSS race program in a matter of minutes directly from the clocks.

Basketting went quite smoothly, no hiccups with the birds, printing the sheets took a little time. Clock checking was very relaxed and the results went a dream (apart from my own performance). If it carries on like this it has been worth the extra work.

 

Glad to know most things went o.k. in the end for ya Mick,our first race this weekend,allthough we used it last year still a bit concerned what with all these updates,heard today that members have had a letter fron Unikon about another new update.