1st 20 in fed

[timbarra]

I think know of the guy you are on about, but i thought he had been flying longer than a few years! Personally I think that performance is outstanding racing, what we should ALL aspire to achieve. The guy may or may not be a millionaire, he may or may not have people helping him, he may or may not have beneficial loft position and whatever else has been cast at him because of his success, but you can't take away the credit from his performance(s). The birds still have to be "managed" into supreme condition. It's always the same when someone rises above the norm, they are slated for some reason or another. Is pigeon racing the only sport where the champions are chastized??  

 

I do not get the name and shame the Fed statement Vic??? I thought you were a better bloke than that, and as you are a successful flier too it makes it even more confusing! Whats shameful about winning and winning in an outstanding way? I don't follow your thinking here??? No lads, credit where credit is due, that is absolutely outstanding flying, take your cap off to the lad. I really hope people are grousing about me in the future because of performances like that!

 

 

I totally agree with Daves statement... the man done good so give him credit , not Chastize him.

 

 

[Roland]

Put a millionaire with managers, assistants and all the top birds and place him West in any club, fed National and he won't be a name to reckon with... may have the od East Wind ... but concerns like the NRCC etc. aren't keen and rarely if everliberate.

His money will be useless, nothing beats the Location, or wind! We can't control the wind, only adjust our sails a mite.

Further let Joe 61 be his mentor... still will just hold up the bottom rung most weeks.

Yet to see anyone buy into a westerly position ... unless family / job comitemnts... and they usually pack up till they move again.

[Roland]

As I posted, 38 or more are / have been clocked in on the ET within a second.

So that in it's self is not really brill. We all know when the loft is in form because they land as one.

But fair play to the chap ... mind I don't think he is doing the club mates any favours and they may just form another club were he won't be allowed in. ... Or like another name that PAYS everything in the club, even trains their birds just so he can compete at club / fed level....

[sammy]

As I posted, 38 or more are / have been clocked in on the ET within a second.

So that in it's self is not really brill. We all know when the loft is in form because they land as one.

But fair play to the chap ... mind I don't think he is doing the club mates any favours and they may just form another club were he won't be allowed in. ... Or like another name that PAYS everything in the club, even trains their birds just so he can compete at club / fed level....

 

and thats the way club racing is going  

[Guest]

What is the point of timming 20 birds,would the first five not be enought.Personally i think by doing this it is very off putting to any novice or newcommers to the sport trying to compete in the club.And while some will find this impressive,which it is no dowt,mabee its to easy for this guy and he should try something harder to test himself,pau ,tarbes,barcelona,taken the first one in a race like that ,well thats impressive

[Guest Vic]

Put a millionaire with managers, assistants and all the top birds and place him West in any club, fed National and he won't be a name to reckon with... may have the od East Wind ... but concerns like the NRCC etc. aren't keen and rarely if everliberate.

His money will be useless, nothing beats the Location, or wind! We can't control the wind, only adjust our sails a mite.

Further let Joe 61 be his mentor... still will just hold up the bottom rung most weeks.

Yet to see anyone buy into a westerly position ... unless family / job comitemnts... and they usually pack up till they move again.

Wise words indeed!

 

 

[pjc]

I see mac has not replied to the comments on this thread!

There is no mention of how many club positions he took, it maybe the club has a 3 bird rule etc!

When using a conventional clock you can stop clocking after 3 birds etc but ETS will just keep clocking!

 

Phil

 

ps congrats to the winner!

[Ronnie]

Jones brothers in cheshire clocked the first 7 in the fed the other year and some guy down the club said you better frame that as it will never happen again.What he didnt know is the lads had all the birds they sent drop together and only clocked the 7.It was using a t3 as well not ets.

I know this is true as i was sat in there garden watching them clock the birds.They are so called back garden fliers and do not spend huge amounts of money on birds or equipment just common sense and good management.

[Roland]

Most, indeed many fanciers today relate the facts like Position / wind etc. and many - not enough obviously - don't get carried away with soudo results that bolster either... and of course the 'Money' that further enhances their fortunate position.

Several medioce and average fanciers has moved and lo and behold has excelled, not only himself, but of course their pigeons.

I could name a dozen, and at least half a dozen that if moving back to old haunts would quickly be come a 'Has - Been' that in reality is / was a 'Never Was'.

Could also name a few banded 'Nmaes' that are mentioned on here, even the birds which are suppose to be such and such birds that are doing 'The buisness'! Could it be the other and are in reality flying a 'Un Named birds. NOW I wonder why that is? Could it be that the real 'McCoy' don't fetch in the money?

Better still just look at where the real birds are doing the buisness that 'Money' / Chequess are being thrown at them and STILL the true sauce, the real merit isn't passed on!

The lists of the above are countless, and well known to most of us ... many disillusioned ones have packee up rather than ... Yet still too many harp on about 'Names' that are cheating the fancy as tin Gods!

Lets not forget though on the other boot many NAMES are doiung the buis, are putting time and effort in.

So just how can one compete against them when with Location / Wind is in their favour, and like many others of us are putting in 110%!

Indeed the simple reality is that it can't be done, well not on a regular standing, and sadly in this scenario 'One Swallow' doesn't make a Summer'!

[Guest Paulo]

Wise words indeed!

 

 

Yes thats the good thing about long distance racing loft location can and does go out of the window.

[billy wilson]

you can pay alot of money for birds,but you dont buy the mans system thats the difference how many men sell pigeons you pay good money for then you see an advert in the homing world or the racing pigeon,and he;s wanting £25 £30 for his system,i think if you pay good money for the birds then he should be good enough to give you his system.and some of these systems you couldnt afford to pay for the gear,i think they get back handers off these people for plugging there stuff. just my way of thinking

 

                                                                          billy

[lordcornwallis]

no one can take away the fact this a great performance, but how many fanciers will look at it as ott by this person and then move to another club or fed because of it. its a fact a man with pots of money and unlimited time on his hands will beat a back garden fancier with a full time job nine out of ten times .also how many pigeons did this fancier send 100 per chance even 200 give me a break this is were pigeon racing falls down -unlimited entries- it makes for a very uneven playing field what other sport{hobby for me } lets one person send 40 whilst another sends 4 answers on a postcard please lc

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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[Roland]

no one can take away the fact this a great performance, but how many fanciers will look at it as ott by this person and then move to another club or fed because of it. its a fact a man with pots of money and unlimited time on his hands will beat a back garden fancier with a full time job nine out of ten times .also how many pigeons did this fancier send 100 per chance even 200 give me a break this is were pigeon racing falls down -unlimited entries- it makes for a very uneven playing field what other sport{hobby for me } lets one person send 40 whilst another sends 4 answers on a postcard please lc

 

True, but if it keeps the cost down for me, them what do I care if he send 10 or a 100, or even two hundred!

So 10 fanciers send 10 each... or one sends 80, no matter, the main diference is that in thm 80, 1 or two must be in great form and raring to go, the others possible gone over or needing the race.

When you only have 8 pairs say, then each is prepared personally and must earn it's perch when the time of asking arrives.

 

[just ask me]

some good points made here interesting only thing i would say is i belive a fancier should clock all his birds as if I'm behind him i want to know how many birds i was bet by and not waste my time with no hopers afraid club racing is going this way as Ive no club to race in so this year only fed racing for me hope i can do some damage a few points to make lol

[ken]

billy your thinking of ian staford difrent fed all together

[Guest]

lets face it, if every fancier were to time their first twenty or so birds the result could become quite ridiculious.I believe especially with the introduction of ets, a limit of birds timmed should be considered.and once again what about the novices with mabee only a dozen birds you will sicken them before they even get started.

[Roland]

Well Vicent that is what will be the case, no two ways about that.

[ken]

been told today the man  has been disqualified the E.S.T had stoped dont no if its true yet so dont hold me to that.

[Ian Gill]

It wasnt Staffy because first of he isnt a millionaire and I was talking to him this morning lol ..it was a guy called Paul whose ets clock was set wrong ..its been checked by diester already ..and the bloke has only been racing a couple of years but when you buy the right gear you are half way there ;)

[just ask me]

lets face it, if every fancier were to time their first twenty or so birds the result could become quite ridiculious.I believe especially with the introduction of ets, a limit of birds timmed should be considered.and once again what about the novices with mabee only a dozen birds you will sicken them before they even get started.

 

 

 

well i thnk in the fed at least a fanicer should be able to clock in as many birds as they want to have a true result maybe in the club have a 3 bird limit lets face it lads this man or woman has put in major work into his pigeons and desrves every pladuit he gets here only thing i want to know what line of pigeon hes flying or who is he even anyone know pm me if u want please. tank u

[Guest]

lets face it, if every fancier were to time their first twenty or so birds the result could become quite ridiculious.I believe especially with the introduction of ets, a limit of birds timmed should be considered.and once again what about the novices with mabee only a dozen birds you will sicken them before they even get started.

 

 

 

well i thnk in the fed at least a fanicer should be able to clock in as many birds as they want to have a true result maybe in the club have a 3 bird limit lets face it lads this man or woman has put in major work into his pigeons and desrves every pladuit he gets here only thing i want to know what line of pigeon hes flying or who is he even anyone know pm me if u want please. tank u

 

If every member in my fed timmed twenty birds there would be about 1100 birds on the result,thats some amount of paper,ink and if every member wants a result well with 40 birds a page it would just make things silly.

[just ask me]

 

 

If every member in my fed timmed twenty birds there would be about 1100 birds on the result,thats some amount of paper,ink and if every member wants a result well with 40 birds a page it would just make things silly.

 

no where in my post did i say every pigeon has to be in the result and if a man can clock 20 or 30 birds ahead of everyone else into a fed i say fairplay to him its takes hard work to do this

[Guest]

 

If every member in my fed timmed twenty birds there would be about 1100 birds on the result,thats some amount of paper,ink and if every member wants a result well with 40 birds a page it would just make things silly.

 

no where in my post did i say every pigeon has to be in the result and if a man can clock 20 or 30 birds ahead of everyone else into a fed i say fairplay to him its takes hard work to do this

how does he know he has 20 in front of everyboby else,untill he reaches the club so what i am saying if everyone done this not knowing were they are.in my fed there would be 11000 on the result.

 

[just ask me]

how does he know he has 20 in front of everyboby else,untill he reaches the club so what i am saying if everyone done this not knowing were they are.in my fed there would be 11000 on the result.

 

 

is your fed useing ets or something as i cant seem to understand what u are saying please can u explain

[Guest]

as you know i believe there should be a limit of birds timmed,our fed has about 550 members, all i am saying mate is under these conditions with most clubs in the fed using ets now there has to be a cut off