fuming

[just ask me]

chriss i said the same thing about charitys here a good while back we are on near enough the same lines that one was shut down i think we need a new way of thinking i hear pll giveing out about ets how it will kill our sport its noting toward this

[ch pied]

the bleeding heart's for  BOP , keep bleeding , ill do what i have to do

[Guest chrisss]

chriss i said the same thing about charitys here a good while back we are on near enough the same lines that one was shut down i think we need a new way of thinking i hear pll giveing out about ets how it will kill our sport its noting toward this

 

ets? whats the point if you have no pigeon racing between bird flu/hawks and the ets saga its all going down the pan, in 10 years time there will be no pigeon racing [outside of maybe one loft racing](puke)(puke)

[ALF]

just had that pesky b------ kill one of me late breds dragged it under a motor over the back from me and was still eating it when i found it the b------ ragging i am f----- ershole rspb b------- would love to get me hands on their scrawny f----- necks never mind the hawks ,but i will fix the b------ be sure of that and any yous ersewipes on here the want to support these scum pm yir addres and i will sort you f----- out as well ya bunch of clowns (puke)(puke)(puke)(puke)(puke)

 

;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

[gangster]

i think i need some of joe61s medication..... :P :P :P

[billy wilson]

SORRY TO HEAR ABOUT YOUR LATE BRED SAMMY YOU WAIT SO LONG TO BRING YOUNG BIRDS UP AND IN ONE SWOOP GONE,HOPE YOU GET BAST--D SAMMY

                   BILLY

[Guest]

Maybe we should learn from the hawk the silent killer!

[gangster]

Maybe we should learn from the hawk the silent killer!

 

do you know you might just have hit the nail on the head.......

[jimmy white]

sorry to hear of your latebred sammy , i can really understand how maddening this is  

[frank-123]

http://www.sasa.gov.uk/pesticide_wildlife/wiis/reports.cfm

thought this was a good site the rspb keep going on about the birds that are being killed by chemicals doesnt look a lot to me

 

oh and they quote in there response to the relocation of sparrowhawks in scotland the wise words of prof ian newton who is an expert in the sparrow hawk field

they just forgot to mention he is the chairman of the rspb council

http://www.rspb.org.uk/Images/sparrowhawksandpigeons_tcm9-187597.pdf

http://www.rspb.org.uk/Images/sparrowhawksand%20pigeonsannex_tcm9-187598.pdf

[Guest]

lost my first bird timed in the 2007 young bird national SNRPC yesterday off the loft,third time in within a week  its had a go.lucky for me its the only one it got,but what a one to get ,gutted.

[jimmy white]

very interesting bart,, only looked at birds poisoned at last check 2007    no sparrowhawks or perigrines , so no blame on fanciers  for that,

the other statistical lot from the rspb [my pal   in first postings on hawks post on sticky,,,,,,,,racing pigeon page] my old freind duncan hiven ewing   ready to give  statistics to birds killed by hawks, these statistics are completely and utterly wrong and especially HE should realize that,, especialy the ??? p.c lost , the reason for the ??? p.c lost are a from the direct cause of the perigrine,,,,,,,,,,,i have wittnessed a batch of roughly one hundred pigeons being attacked by one perigrine ,,,,it killed one to eat , i would say the rest of the batch would have a hard job getting home , some were killed in hitting walls [yes walls, straight into them with blind panick] some diving for cover in the pine or fir trees , straight through the branches , some being killed , some being injured and ALL losing their senses by sheer panick .

 

i have also seen this with my own birds about 40 y,bs lib at carter bar , breeder buyer one killed some couple of miles from me , got there , dead , half eaten , the rest hitting cars , lorries [thankfully not causing serious accident on roads] some flying through the dense trees ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,3 pigeons home that night, next day another 9 , some with broken legs , some with secondries missing ,flights broken etc.

 

so when is this Duncan" hiven"Orr going to realize that the percentage he puts down as mere" lost "are  in fact lost due to the hawks terrifying them ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,as he works with percentages ,,,, i wonder what his answer would be to,

 

"of the percentage of  lost pigeons, , what percentage is" lost" due directly to the perigrine[,terrifying them, causing death and disablement to the pigeon],  which have been prooved to be multiplying [with the help of the rspb] speedier than ever ????????  

[jimmy white]

lost my first bird timed in the 2007 young bird national SNRPC yesterday off the loft,third time in within a week  its had a go.lucky for me its the only one it got,but what a one to get ,gutted.

 

sorry to here this vincent , i know how you feel as this happened to me last week , since then another attack which i managed to wittness , and save the pigeon  ;D [all its secondary flights missing

 

the law is drasticly wrong ,,,,,,,,,,,kill a hawk , get jailed or hundreds of pounds fine................knock an old lady down and steal her handbag , youd get off with a   lighter sentance ,,,,,,,,,THIS CANNOT BE RIGHT

[Guest G.Drysdale + son]

James Burnside in the loft next to me had a bird taken by a hawk about 10 days ago it stripped it to a skeleton.

[jimmy white]

it makes you wonder if we had a petition signed by every fancier in the uk , and, through pigeon basics , handed this personally in to 10 downing st ,,,,,,,,,,,it may not do much in the houses of parliament , but the news papers and tv would have a field  day, with a  few horror stories for the public , then , who knows ,,,,it could be a start

[Guest]

witnesed two of the three,unfortunally not there for the most important one,no carcuss anywere to be seen so it.so think it may well be the perigine rather than the sparrowhawk,thats life,in sayiny that the perigine should be on the nest so dont really know.the cock was chasing her mabee she thought it was the cock behind her. :o