race controllers

[BLACK W F]

 

Don't need to phone anyone for facts as i have a close dialogue with man in charge of liberating quoted organisation above, i take it you have ditched your suicidal view on liberating pigeons before 05.30 come rain, hail or sleet,

 

As for your statement above in bold well this is as far as i am concerned coming from a man that's delusional.

 

and can Gareth explain why the transporter was not on the lib site for him to lib at 5-30 so had to wait   sure this was not for the doos benifit  will you answer this time gareth  

 

 

Can i ask other fanciers in the North of Scotland if they feel the same as Walter and Black w/f in that pigeons are deliberately getting withheld from release which is to the detriment to the north section pigeons.????

Walter still waiting on facts / graphs that pigeons have not been released when they should have which in turn has been to the detriment of the pigeons..

Walter still waiting on organisations that liberate at 05.00 or before which you have quoted in the past as the time that you would release the SNFC pigeons.

 

 

 

 

[Guest bigda]

whats wrong in asking for early  libs the up north combine has no  hang ups with 5-30am and 6am,   6am  is there latest window and if the pass that then its the next day or second option 1-30 pm  lib for every one  cant be fairer that that surely  failing to comply with that ,  yes would show a biased view to the guys in the north,  some one said  put  yer best  doos in  they  have to find them out first each year,   there is a difference if you are looking for day  birds,  against 2 day bids  any libs after 5-30 puts the North men out of the national and the odds are stacked against them,   through the race controllers neglect  why have the 4-30am rule  if you thing birds will fly at that time   all answers to the 4-30 would be grate.  and  most races are 150 mile from  the channel  and by 7-30 am comes  the channel should not be a problem on most  days,    after all its is only 21 mile  wide  you make out its  a  ocean,  they can see the other side  better than the eye that is judging it  for them  and what if the next day for the men in the north is a black out   not  one of you in the middle of the  country are bothered  for you would all say not in your section  and that is the reason

9-30 suits you more than them  the point is at 9-30  you have a chance of inning the national when the strings are cut  but the north guy  has no chance and only flying for his section   is there any brave  controllers out there,  as i have even  less confidence in the new one. then again you might be brought back  to kelso

[walterbmasson]

 

Don't need to phone anyone for facts as i have a close dialogue with man in charge of liberating quoted organisation above, i take it you have ditched your suicidal view on liberating pigeons before 05.30 come rain, hail or sleet,

 

As for your statement above in bold well this is as far as i am concerned coming from a man that's delusional.

gareth i certainly come back and reply to anything that you post because i certainly am know the birds are getting a crap chance of winning anything with you lot unless its a afternoon liberation when all birds gets same playing field for god sake you cant have much up top if you cant see the north birds hasnt a chance of getting home on equal  you haveterms as you in central belt why is it birds will be libed as early as possible weather permitting some times transporter not even at site till 6am ( you have the audacity to say suicidal liberating birds before 5.30 am your the one that should be put in a straight jacket for allowing the north birds to try and fly in dark through wires and flairs a refineries ive seen flocks of birds going into these furnesses wirless masts i can go on and on about the dangers of birds flying into dark that is how selfish you lot are think about your selves all the time you should bury your heads in shame ??) ??) ??) ??)

 

 

 

Can i ask other fanciers in the North of Scotland if they feel the same as Walter and Black w/f in that pigeons are deliberately getting withheld from release which is to the detriment to the north section pigeons.????

Walter still waiting on facts / graphs that pigeons have not been released when they should have which in turn has been to the detriment of the pigeons..

Walter still waiting on organisations that liberate at 05.00 or before which you have quoted in the past as the time that you would release the SNFC pigeons.

 

 

 

 

[walterbmasson]

;D

there is another early time

http://www.nehu.co.uk/2009bourges.html

bigda i will bet they were being made ready at 4.30 and most are flying 556 to 570miles a few in newcastle 600miles north birds another 50 to 100miles further that is what they think about north birds ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D hilarious ;D ;D ;D

[Guest bigda]

well  done walter, you have exposed a national   who you quite rightly belive in central flying only  you would actualy think it was there  national only as they think of no other but themself   thats why  i dont think i could join such a  selfish  crew  full of there own importance and who for get  the words  national  and  what  it means  but should they win the national  strut about like a peacock  but never to ask what was the weather like for the second day birds from there 7-30 - 10-30  libs    can some one on here, a  national man  say why 4-30 am next day  is ok for flying  mostly for the notherners, but they never get  4-30 libs  on the day  this channel sh :oit

dosent wash with me,    as i sayed  when the "brouch" is full of fog at 4-30  am the next  day

for the notherners   who is  there   to help them   cross   have they then to wait  to 9-30  for there birds  to get  going again  a national mean from all parts  of the country

give the guys a chance to enjoy there birds on the day :o

[walterbmasson]

 

well i can tell you gareth i have spoken to most north section fanciers and all say they dont bother about the north sec they know its not going to change but why can you say o this is a great bird timed in flying 500miles on day when a bird could be timed in the same race flying 600miles+ but this will not happen ( GUESS WHY )  :-/ :-/ :-/ BUT I DONT THINK YOU CAN  :-/ :-/ :-/ ARE YOU STILL CONFUSED  :-/ :-/ :-/

 

 

[Guest Gareth Rankin]

gareth i certainly come back and reply to anything that you post because i certainly am know the birds are getting a crap chance of winning anything with you lot unless its a afternoon liberation when all birds gets same playing field for god sake you cant have much up top if you cant see the north birds hasnt a chance of getting home on equal  you haveterms as you in central belt why is it birds will be libed as early as possible weather permitting some times transporter not even at site till 6am ( you have the audacity to say suicidal liberating birds before 5.30 am your the one that should be put in a straight jacket for allowing the north birds to try and fly in dark through wires and flairs a refineries ive seen flocks of birds going into these furnesses wirless masts i can go on and on about the dangers of birds flying into dark that is how selfish you lot are think about your selves all the time you should bury your heads in shame

 

 

 

 

Your posts once again astound me Walter ??) ??) :( :( perhaps time for you to stick to sprint races as your comments are disrespectful to other disadvantageous areas of Scotland and also to that of the race controllers who over the years have put many hours into securing a safe start for the SNFC pigeons in liberations from France.

 

 

Perhaps Walter you could start a special club for yourself, Black w/f and Bigda, if you wish i'm sure i could think of a name for it. ;D ;D ;D ;D

 

  

 

[Guest bigda]

this must be a scary site for  the snfc knowing if the go at this time  5-30 am the gold cup will go to the north only way to beat  them  is the north guys vote for  races with the  UNC at the agms the latest they guys go is 6am  no jitterys in there  controler ;D ;D ;D ;D

new  name  for the national,    "midlands" national 500 mile high club ;D ;D

http://www.nehu.co.uk/2009bourges.html

[BLACK W F]

you guys are wasting your time Gareth just wants to see /hear /and say what he is told very blinkered

[Guest bigda]

you guys are wasting your time Gareth just wants to see /hear /and say what he is told very blinkered

 

we all know that mate,  just didnt want to be as blunt as you at it,   was trying to  say it tackfully,    anyhow  now its out yes he is  a " yes"  man  ,  i nearly said x man  but that would only link  him to  <houston > again,   he"s the guy who sorted him out.   remember    " roger and out " ;D ;D ;D

[Delboy]

Short memories you guys in the north :-/ :B  Alencon 2008, late lib and G.Willox wins 1st Open in Peterhead and J.Donaldson 7th, 32nd Open and 6 birds in top 39 . The last time the Gold cup was won in the west was 30 years ago The later the liberation, the better for the further flying fanciers. With an early lib, your chances of winning the National diminishes unless their is a tail wind.

[Guest bigda]

Short memories you guys in the north :-/ :B  Alencon 2008, late lib and G.Willox wins 1st Open in Peterhead and J.Donaldson 7th, 32nd Open and 6 birds in top 39 . The last time the Gold cup was won in the west was 30 years ago The later the liberation, the better for the further flying fanciers. With an early lib, your chances of winning the National diminishes unless their is a tail wind.

 

what was the velocity  then  and lib time del  may be they are the better birds after all  given the chance  so walter is right about a  biased  view

[walterbmasson]

gareth i certainly come back and reply to anything that you post because i certainly am know the birds are getting a crap chance of winning anything with you lot unless its a afternoon liberation when all birds gets same playing field for god sake you cant have much up top if you cant see the north birds hasnt a chance of getting home on equal  you haveterms as you in central belt why is it birds will be libed as early as possible weather permitting some times transporter not even at site till 6am ( you have the audacity to say suicidal liberating birds before 5.30 am your the one that should be put in a straight jacket for allowing the north birds to try and fly in dark through wires and flairs a refineries ive seen flocks of birds going into these furnesses wirless masts i can go on and on about the dangers of birds flying into dark that is how selfish you lot are think about your selves all the time you should bury your heads in shame GARETH disrespectable to race controllers you must be joking all i want is respect for our birds you mention other parts of the country if i was flying 500miles an timing birds out of a national  knowing that the whole convoy hasent got the same chance for god sake grow up i dont need to fly sprint races am i saying anything wrong telling the truth you speak about the race controllers and the work they do well gareth weve had some stinkers liberating at all times but we still havent given the birds a chance at early lib when skys are not nice and quiet no traffic ( i dont mean cars ) but saying that may be not so good an idea it may turn out a good race ) but gareth how will we ever know if never tried but sprint you should ask that question to yourself before you post some of your is getting more than confused but gareth post a ring number for reims this year and see who should be doing the sprint i repeat once again there is no wrong in any post i have done asking to be treated the same in a NATIONAL RACE I KNOW YOU CANT HELP WHERE YOU STAY BUT IN A NATIONAL RACE NO QUARTER SHOULD BE GIVEN IF WEATHER IS RIGHT FOR A RACE THE BIRDS SHOULD BE MADE READY FOR LIB AS EARLY AS POSSIBLE AND I DONT SEE WHY 5 AM IS OUT OF THE ORDINARY AND YOU KNOW THE KINGS CUP ITS LUCKY IF IT GOES DARK SO WHY THE BIG DEAL OFWAITING FOR  6AM TO7AM LIBERATION CHEERS YOURS IN SPORT WALTER . I DONT LIKE THE IDEA OF SPRINT SO SEND RING MUMBER ON TO SITE  I WILL DO SAME

 

 

 

 

Your posts once again astound me Walter ??) ??) :( :( perhaps time for you to stick to sprint races as your comments are disrespectful to other disadvantageous areas of Scotland and also to that of the race controllers who over the years have put many hours into securing a safe start for the SNFC pigeons in liberations from France.

 

 

Perhaps Walter you could start a special club for yourself, Black w/f and Bigda, if you wish i'm sure i could think of a name for it. ;D ;D ;D ;D

 

  

 

 

[walterbmasson]

Short memories you guys in the north :-/ :B  Alencon 2008, late lib and G.Willox wins 1st Open in Peterhead and J.Donaldson 7th, 32nd Open and 6 birds in top 39 . The last time the Gold cup was won in the west was 30 years ago The later the liberation, the better for the further flying fanciers. With an early lib, your chances of winning the National diminishes unless their is a tail wind.

DELBOY is that telling you something all the convoy having to spend the night out but surly this is the same dont shut birds out if theres a chance of them getting home and i state again if weather permits and delboy a lot more would have sent if knew it was going

to be mid day lib give them a chance at 600miles and some will do it on day a lot of times cheers walter

 

[BLACK W F]

well gareth aint nobodys yes man or puppet  ;D ;D ;D ;D

[walterbmasson]

 

fairways ;D 8) 8) 8) ;D

 

 

[Guest bigda]

DELBOY is that telling you something all the convoy having to spend the night out but surly this is the same dont shut birds out if theres a chance of them getting home and i state again if weather permits and delboy a lot more would have sent if knew it was going

to be mid day lib give them a chance at 600miles and some will do it on day a lot of times cheers walter

 

Here, Here,  Walter   again  you have exposed   them  i  can     see   why there was a split ,     as dog in the manger come to  mind

[walterbmasson]

 

Here, Here,  Walter   again  you have exposed   them  i  can     see   why there was a split ,     as dog in the manger come to  mind

some can see whats happening but theres always the other half that dosent want to no in the shadows out of site out of mind  ;   ;D   ;D

 

 

[Delboy]

Aye, I know everything but im not telling you maddies ;D ;D ;D

[Guest bigda]

Aye, I know everything but I'm not telling you maddies ;D ;D ;D

 

Del what is the  thirty nine steps ;D ;D ;D   or thirty 33 degrees :X :X me thinks the nat sit at the port in england and not at the race site  as that cost money   and  wait till the day they are going to get a race   :o   cheep skates

wonder how many of the members  know that ;D  bigda as it is

[walterbmasson]

:-/ :-/

 

Del what is the  thirty nine steps ;D ;D ;D   or thirty 33 degrees :X :X me thinks the nat sit at the port in england and not at the race site  as that cost money   and  wait till the day they are going to get a race   :o   cheep skates

wonder how many of the members  know that ;D  bigda as it is

was it not a rag and bone lorry yes we all know that happened not thinking about birds  :-/ :-/ :-/ :-/

 

 

[BLACK W F]

Aye, I know everything but im not telling you maddies ;D ;D ;D

 

and here was me thinking you where your own man not a yes or puppet  but remember a secret is only a secret when your the only one who knows  ;D ;D ;D ;D and i got ways and means  and plenty spys  8) 8) 8) 8) 8)

[THE FIFER]

I will lock this thread as I think its turning into matters which should be sorted at organisations not on the open forum,