Airports

[blaz]

was told tonight that race birds have been and will be shot flying over airports.the number of birds claimed to have been shot is 1200. has anyone else on hear know of this .

[Novice]

I don't know if that's true but the SHU issues a list of airports every year and most have an 8 miles exclusion zone. From some race points the organisers are supposed to notify the ATC in advance that the intend to race from that area and the convoyer should notify them of liberation 30 minutes in advance.

 

This seems a bit extreme considering the fact that about 600 Geese and 100 Whooper Swans are grazing on a field a few hundred yards from Glasgow Airport.

[Guest Gareth Rankin]

was told tonight that race birds have been and will be shot flying over airports.the number of birds claimed to have been shot is 1200. has anyone else on hear know of this .

I believe that airport you refer to is Edinburgh, seems to be a big problem there. It was quoted at a SHU meeting not long ago that there is someone paid to kill birds that could potentially cause serious damage to their aircraft.

 

Midland fed had a young bird race from the Solway this year, needless to say that some how a batch of these pigeons were killed by an aircraft using this airport. Some dog leg these pigeons took, solway to Airdrie via Edinburgh, crazy.

[knoxjn]

i live close to the airport in newbridge since i moved here have been decimated year on year cannot get out the bit very upsetting but i love the birds

[b.massey]

Yeah midland birds got caught in engines apparently... How they ended up there is a mystery

[knoxjn]

theres something goes on around the plae the birds get confused my birds wont exercise further than the village itself its really weird

[Guest IB]

The plane might have landed at Edinburgh but I doubt if the incident took place there. Very common for arrivals to come out of the south west, often saw them come over the railway at Newbridge.

[airdrie2]

The plane might have landed at Edinburgh but I doubt if the incident took place there. Very common for arrivals to come out of the south west, often saw them come over the railway at Newbridge.

they come right out over the outside of blackridge caldercruix outer marker and turn for landing at edinburgh martin

[Guest stb-]

The plane might have landed at Edinburgh but I doubt if the incident took place there. Very common for arrivals to come out of the south west, often saw them come over the railway at Newbridge.

the planes take of and land into the wind whatever direction that is comming from so have no set route . :emoticon-0167-beer:

[hotrod]

the planes take of and land into the wind whatever direction that is comming from so have no set route . :emoticon-0167-beer:

 

Your wrong rab they have flight paths , they only change for approach depending on wind direction .

[ForestForever74]

How many shots would they fire off at a batch of doo's flying over an airport? I doubt very much its the figures stated! they wouldn't have the time to take so many. Still it explains losses into Cumbernauld with our airport being such an international hub and all that!

[Guest IB]

How many shots would they fire off at a batch of doo's flying over an airport? I doubt very much its the figures stated! they wouldn't have the time to take so many. Still it explains losses into Cumbernauld with our airport being such an international hub and all that!

 

Maybe not as unprepared as you think. Couple of years ago pigeons and airports was discussed at SHU Council - some Councillors had visited Edinburgh prior to my joining - and I was told pigeons do show up on the airport's radar.

[Ian McKay]

This is the stupidest idea I have ever heard

 

Human thinking gone all wrong do they think the dead birds will pass on the message :emoticon-0179-headbang: :emoticon-0179-headbang:

[ForestForever74]

Maybe not as unprepared as you think. Couple of years ago pigeons and airports was discussed at SHU Council - some Councillors had visited Edinburgh prior to my joining - and I was told pigeons do show up on the airport's radar.

 

I am more worried about RAF jets causing huge damage to teams of birds in the middle of nowhere! nobody to see it happening and they are not likely to report it. How do we find out how often and where they are flying? no chance of ever finding that out. Perhaps they do show up on a radar but how would they be able to do something about it, the doo's would be over and away in a flash!

[Guest stb-]

Your wrong rab they have flight paths , they only change for approach depending on wind direction .

 

the planes take of and land into the wind whatever direction that is comming from so have no set route . :emoticon-0167-beer:

Take of and landing to me means the same as approach

I am talking about taking of and landing they have no set route for approach it depends on the wind , how would i know the flight paths

i only see them comming into glasgow and taking of and they take of and land in all directions .The post was about round aboot airports not flight paths on route.

 

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was told tonight that race birds have been and will be shot flying over airports.the number of birds claimed to have been shot is 1200. has anyone else on hear know of this .

[Guest IB]

I am more worried about RAF jets causing huge damage to teams of birds in the middle of nowhere! nobody to see it happening and they are not likely to report it. How do we find out how often and where they are flying? no chance of ever finding that out. Perhaps they do show up on a radar but how would they be able to do something about it, the doo's would be over and away in a flash!

 

The reason the airport people don't want pigeons flying over airfields is because in a collision with a plane, pigeons have the potential to be sucked into the engines, cause damage and bring the plane down. Similarly, the guy in charge of the RAF station near Ripon had something similar to say in his piece published in BHW a good few years back - pilots of jet aircraft are terrified of one thing only and that is pigeons coming through the cockpit windshield.

 

In meetings with BAA in London, the Unions made clear that nothing can deter pigeons after they have been liberated and found their bearings and on their way home - if there is a runway on the birds' flight path then they will fly across it and there is nothing anyone can do to stop that. But we will make sure that we don't liberate them within 8 miles of an airport. The last thing we need is for someone to ignore that rule, liberate near an airport and down a plane.