greenlands Posted November 2, 2013 Report Posted November 2, 2013 I picked this up off an Australian site.A good read IMO. Interesting to read the SAHPA conveyors view of things. Too often we only hear of matters from our side of the fence. Notes on the Convoying of racing pigeons during 2012By Geoff RaymentI've written this article to give an insight through my eyes as the convoyer and to share someobservations and outline the basics of what I do!The driver (Chris) and I aim to get the birds to the race points as quickly, carefully and as safely aspossible in time for me to feed, water and rotate the birds (within each bay), so that the maximumnumber of birds get access to feed and water! I have found the majority of pigeons will feed and drink well once we have arrived at the race pointand then settle after a couple of shuffles around with my aluminium rod (that Michael Shepherdsonmade up for me! - it certainly brings the percentages up for the birds that eat and drink, thanksMichael). Now, I've tried watering the birds part way to the race point in anticipation that they may want adrink by then, but my observations show that only about 10% drink, and in doing so, this delays thearrival at the race point by approximately two hours and hence the other 90% have had to wait longerbefore they eat and drink. This process (feeding and watering) can take up to four hours if the unit isfull. As noted above I try to give all the bird’s encouragement and plenty of opportunity to eat anddrink. I have observed a far better response to feeding and drinking when bay numbers are 30 to a bay!This is not always possible we know, but maybe all bays should be used all the time. In my opinionbetter feeding and watering far out-ways the argument of birds travelling better and staying warmerwhen bays have higher numbers. On the subject of heat, we observed that the birds don’t cop the heat when we are travellingcompared to being parked somewhere in the same temperature (even if you can find shade).Our young bird derbies got me thinking! Open races give the opportunity to youngsters to learn or copy old birds when feeding and drinking!When we flew Lyndhurst YBC I noticed a decrease in the number of birds eating and drinking and Iconcluded that this was due to not having old birds on board. Ceduna SAD came a week later and I was surprised to see a marked difference in that plenty ofbirds were getting stuck into eating and drinking. This puzzled me for a while, but on the journeyhome I thought about it. It was just as Don Schwarz said to me previously about the holdovers forboth Wudinna races a few weeks earlier. Don’s point was that the additional time at the Wudinna racepoints enabled the birds to ‘learn’ to eat and drink in the bays and hence contributed to the bettereating and drinking for the Ceduna SAD compared to the Lyndhurst YBC. Now a suggestion on training pigeons for feeding and watering in hampers for all flyers. Two daysbefore you train the birds, hamper them up and give them their evening feed and water (on trays perthe SAHPA). On day two (with the birds still in the hampers), leave water available all day (no feed inthe morning). On returning home from work say 4.00pm, remove water and feed the birds in thetrays, then following feeding, provide water in the same trays. Leave water all night and early am (orwhenever that day) take the birds and toss them (even if it is only just down the road to the oval orwhatever). This training is sure to give you better and more consistent race returns and prepare thembetter for when Thursday night hampering starts. At Nundroo I watched in dismay as I released the birds - the sky was well overcast and this causedlonger than normal orientation (although I understand from my own returns and others the racewas good for most) for up to 50 minutes while I closed the unit up. During this time I was veryconcerned about falcon predation. Whatever the reason there was not one falcon strike! The onlybirds of prey out west appear to live off road kill and ground prey. On racing and releasing it is my opinion that when the distance lengthens (last four races) the birdsshould go up at the earliest possible time to give them every opportunity to get home on the day(whether it’s north or south racing). If the short markers get their birds on dark well good luck tothem - they still have to have one in the leading batch and you can’t stop a bird homing through thenight if the desire is to do so. Holding the birds in the morning for a couple of hours so they have thechance to drink doesn't work. All the birds are focused on ‘getting out and home’ and waiting tilllater in the morning prolongs their time before they stop to get water in the heat of the dayanyhow! Everyone gets their turn sooner or later when conditions suit. On a personal racing note I enjoyed my good results from the n/w and west lines but I must say if itwasn't for the help and guidance from Allan Brown I would have been way down the list like in previousyears. I believe most success comes down to how you manage your birds so they can do the job foryou when race conditions suit. Obviously the birds must be fit and in the leading batch in the rightlocation. Top flyers with excellent management skills can land 6 or more together – that’s quality!I live near Gawler and intend to fly all lines even though I could think of many other locations thatwould improve my results. As membership gets smaller each year we need to support the SAHPA raceprogram and not just fly the lines we fare better on. I would like to acknowledge the help from my wife Lorraine who has tirelessly looked after andclocked my birds while I have been away looking after all every one else’s birds as if they were myown. Thank you to all members who have given me positive encouragement.Geoff RaymentSAHPA Convoyer :animatedpigeons:
knoxjn Posted November 2, 2013 Report Posted November 2, 2013 what i find with the almond valley transporter is that the birds will drink when the water in the drinkers is moving i spend a lot of time in the back trying to get them to take on water which is the most important thing in my opinion totally agree with the early start in longer races very good post as most pigeon men have no idea what convoyers go through to have a good race i personally take it hard when the races are dodgy as i try my best for full returns [impossible i know but thats the mentality i have every time i leave the house]
Delboy Posted November 2, 2013 Report Posted November 2, 2013 what i find with the almond valley transporter is that the birds will drink when the water in the drinkers is moving i spend a lot of time in the back trying to get them to take on water which is the most important thing in my opinion totally agree with the early start in longer races very good post as most pigeon men have no idea what convoyers go through to have a good race i personally take it hard when the races are dodgy as i try my best for full returns [impossible i know but thats the mentality i have every time i leave the house] Good post George, the Almond valley fed are very lucky to have you as their convoyer.
tiger Posted November 2, 2013 Report Posted November 2, 2013 Good post George, the Almond valley fed are very lucky to have you as their convoyer.yes he,s one of the best and we are lucky
geordie1234 Posted November 2, 2013 Report Posted November 2, 2013 what i find with the almond valley transporter is that the birds will drink when the water in the drinkers is moving i spend a lot of time in the back trying to get them to take on water which is the most important thing in my opinion totally agree with the early start in longer races very good post as most pigeon men have no idea what convoyers go through to have a good race i personally take it hard when the races are dodgy as i try my best for full returns [impossible i know but thats the mentality i have every time i leave the house] credit to the sport mate
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