greenlands Posted August 28, 2013 Report Posted August 28, 2013 Now that racings over for quite a few unfortunate lads and lasses who have had big losses.What do you do to get the darkness young birds to break into the body moult.Some use butter milk,some sedachol and other various additives.? Some just keep them in with good food clean water and of course plenty grit. Again what do you do.?
Wiley Posted August 28, 2013 Report Posted August 28, 2013 When racing is over complete lock down for one month and plenty of small grains
greenlands Posted August 28, 2013 Author Report Posted August 28, 2013 Any water additives,do you part them ?
Wiley Posted August 28, 2013 Report Posted August 28, 2013 I never part any young birds until after the moult and a month or so before pairing. I'd use sedochol after the month period for 7 days straight then twice a week. But in that month no, just clean water.
Tony C Posted August 28, 2013 Report Posted August 28, 2013 Brewers yeast & poultry spice are mixed on their feed every 3-4 days or so.
Guest chad3646 Posted August 28, 2013 Report Posted August 28, 2013 sometimes when things are falling apart, they maybe actually be falling into place
TheHigg Posted August 28, 2013 Report Posted August 28, 2013 sometimes when things are falling apart, they maybe actually befalling into placequite a constructive post that jimmy [strange behaviour from you] :emoticon-0140-rofl:
Guest Owen Posted August 28, 2013 Report Posted August 28, 2013 I shut mine down with new season barley as part of their diet. Fresh grit mixed with vataminised mineral fresh every day every day. Plenty of baths and plenty of sunshine.
greenlands Posted August 28, 2013 Author Report Posted August 28, 2013 Cheers Owen,think I can sort most of that out,the sunshine might be a problem
Guest Owen Posted August 29, 2013 Report Posted August 29, 2013 Greenlands,I am often surprised at the design of a lot of pigeon lofts. I am sure that a good many of them have been designed for the Owners and the pigeons were an afterthought. Direct sunshine and a rising current of air in the loft is not only free but will make a huge difference to the health and well being of the birds. I was amazed when I heard a conversation at the Club about a week ago. There were people there discussing basket training. Most of the people involved in the conversation were saying that they either didn't basket train at all or else paid little attention to it. One guy said that he put his birds in a crate and left them in the garage overnight with the drinker on. I bet that worked. "Not".My own lofts are 6' wide with upward opening doors fitted in the fronts to accommodate the crates which are mounted on frames so that the birds can run in and out of the crates. I have drinkers fixed to the crates and after a short while I take the normal loft drinkers out of the loft. My birds use these crate drinkers to drink from for months and they are totally used to using them. Crating up the birds for training has become very easy and handling the birds to examine them or give them a pill is a doddle.I think the worse example of a loft design I have seen for a while was on Face Book where the guy was showing a video of his youngsters coming back from training. They first landed on the roof, then the chap called them, the birds came to the loft all trying to clamber on to one of those little Sputniks and finally tumbled in. What a mess. Surely common sense should have told the bloke that the birds should be trained to land directly onto the loft and that the loft should have a landing board big enough to allow them to land all together. He was actually training his pigeons to land on the roof and to fly around before landing because they couldn't all land together anyway. I reckon that if that guy flew in my Club he would lose a awful lot of races through poor trapping. I believe that there are plenty of people out there who wonder why they find winning pigeon races hard to do. I think that a lot of the things that would help are just common sense and either cheap to do or else for free. Sorry about this lads but I just let myself run off at the mouth, again.Owen
Guest chad3646 Posted August 29, 2013 Report Posted August 29, 2013 Greenlands,I am often surprised at the design of a lot of pigeon lofts. I am sure that a good many of them have been designed for the Owners and the pigeons were an afterthought. Direct sunshine and a rising current of air in the loft is not only free but will make a huge difference to the health and well being of the birds. I was amazed when I heard a conversation at the Club about a week ago. There were people there discussing basket training. Most of the people involved in the conversation were saying that they either didn't basket train at all or else paid little attention to it. One guy said that he put his birds in a crate and left them in the garage overnight with the drinker on. I bet that worked. "Not".My own lofts are 6' wide with upward opening doors fitted in the fronts to accommodate the crates which are mounted on frames so that the birds can run in and out of the crates. I have drinkers fixed to the crates and after a short while I take the normal loft drinkers out of the loft. My birds use these crate drinkers to drink from for months and they are totally used to using them. Crating up the birds for training has become very easy and handling the birds to examine them or give them a pill is a doddle.I think the worse example of a loft design I have seen for a while was on Face Book where the guy was showing a video of his youngsters coming back from training. They first landed on the roof, then the chap called them, the birds came to the loft all trying to clamber on to one of those little Sputniks and finally tumbled in. What a mess. Surely common sense should have told the bloke that the birds should be trained to land directly onto the loft and that the loft should have a landing board big enough to allow them to land all together. He was actually training his pigeons to land on the roof and to fly around before landing because they couldn't all land together anyway. I reckon that if that guy flew in my Club he would lose a awful lot of races through poor trapping. I believe that there are plenty of people out there who wonder why they find winning pigeon races hard to do. I think that a lot of the things that would help are just common sense and either cheap to do or else for free. Sorry about this lads but I just let myself run off at the mouth, again.Owen
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