Training Youngbirds

anto b · July 2, 2013

my first year racing starting with youngbirds , first race is roughly 80 miles .

how far do fanciers go training building up to this and how many times would

you have them at this distance ?

thanks , anthony

yeboah · July 2, 2013

Hi Anthony

In the ideal world the youngsters years ago were given as many tosses leading up to the first race as possible including the race point the week previous ,nowadays the peregrine problem curtails that so well schooled in small groups up to 25 mls does ok for me then of to 70mls,Always think their health is more important yb s when in perfect health should never circle when released they should always head for home ,my personal thoughts if they don't is respiratory

Good luck mick

anto b · July 2, 2013

cheers mick , thanks for the reply

just ask me · July 2, 2013

Plenty of short ones from 20 mile or so I belive there no point in going further with bop problem

If there healthy and the first race is not a disaster they will fly 80 mile no problem at all

William Reid · July 2, 2013

Plenty of short ones from 20 mile or so I belive there no point in going further with bop problem

If there healthy and the first race is not a disaster they will fly 80 mile no problem at all

Totally agree jam why are pigeon fanciers training from 3.4.and 5 ml going as short a toss y/birds will always over shoot jmo :animatedpigeons:

just ask me · July 2, 2013

I usealy start mine around the 12 to 14 mile mark as they probaly range a lot further anyway

I don't like starting them at 3 or 5 mile as there called homing pigeons and I often wonder does it confuse them trying to use there homing instint if there all ready home if you get me

William Reid · July 2, 2013

I usealy start mine around the 12 to 14 mile mark as they probaly range a lot further anyway

I don't like starting them at 3 or 5 mile as there called homing pigeons and I often wonder does it confuse them trying to use there homing instint if there all ready home if you get me

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anto b · July 3, 2013

Thanks lads think im on the right track , birds coming well so far , hopefully they will be ok fir 13th july first race

flying fifer · July 3, 2013

Once you have them at the 20ml stage and they are coming well give them a few mini libs, i.e. in 3's 4's or 5's. Never been an advocate of single up's but mini libs get them thinking. AW THE BEST

just ask me · July 3, 2013

i gave up on small libs

take that there a family of falcons somewhere on your training route you have 2 adults and maybe 3 youngones learning how to hunt

well with loads os small libs the young falcons are like thick young lurchers chasing everything that moved so if you leave off 8 to 10 batches of 5 or 6 birds a lot of these batches will get a bang also its the perfect size batch size for a falcon predators like to hit small batchs that are disorientated

take 40 to 50 birds doing 50 to 60 mile per hour its not such a easy target will the falcon still hit them of course but its not as appealing as a target i believe as a small batch of 5 to 10 birds

a lot of the time i see the falcons now splitting the pack then picking out a single bird that breaks off the pack

similar to what a cheetah does in the wild

flying fifer · July 3, 2013

i gave up on small libs

take that there a family of falcons somewhere on your training route you have 2 adults and maybe 3 youngones learning how to hunt

well with loads os small libs the young falcons are like thick young lurchers chasing everything that moved so if you leave off 8 to 10 batches of 5 or 6 birds a lot of these batches will get a bang also its the perfect size batch size for a falcon predators like to hit small batchs that are disorientated

take 40 to 50 birds doing 50 to 60 mile per hour its not such a easy target will the falcon still hit them of course but its not as appealing as a target i believe as a small batch of 5 to 10 birds

a lot of the time i see the falcons now splitting the pack then picking out a single bird that breaks off the pack

similar to what a cheetah does in the wild

Nowadays it will be virtually impossible to train in an area that doesn't have BOP's enroute.
If you get a strike then no matter the size you can get casualties, roaded birds shouldn't be disorientated.
Once roaded no matter the size of batch they will do "50 to 60 mph"
Single birds are easier for BOP's to concentrate on , that's why they scatter a batch.
The only certain way to avoid BOP's is not to let birds out but they have to be trained. Batches big or small will be , unfortunately BOPPED