Jealousy System

[philg50]

I was wondering after 10 yr out o the game ,at that time flying widowhood ,now startin up again ,i wonder if there is some of you gents or ladies ,that can explain system +describe boxes required for the jealousy system ,it woudnt be or next year might get a try with some older youngsters this year hope you can help thanks.

[robbiedoo.]

I was wondering after 10 yr out o the game ,at that time flying widowhood ,now startin up again ,i wonder if there is some of you gents or ladies ,that can explain system +describe boxes required for the jealousy system ,it woudnt be or next year might get a try with some older youngsters this year hope you can help thanks.

 

I don't know if he still has them but goggs Wilson fae Turriff was selling jealousy boxes it might be worth your while trying him

[philg50]

I don't know if he still has them but goggs Wilson fae Turriff was selling jealousy boxes it might be worth your while trying him

your right when i think of it thanks.

[Wiley]

Phill, I toyed with the jealousy system as I toyed with many systems. The box system although they won, it wasn't as successful as normal widowhood. However the 3 section system, where the sections consisted of 2 sections with V perches and a middle section with nest boxes, was deployed by one of the best fanciers I know and was extremely successful.

[philg50]

Phill, I toyed with the jealousy system as I toyed with many systems. The box system although they won, it wasn't as successful as normal widowhood. However the 3 section system, where the sections consisted of 2 sections with V perches and a middle section with nest boxes, was deployed by one of the best fanciers I know and was extremely successful.

Can you go into it in more detail ,are you sayin you have cocks in middle say 16 and you require 32 hens,16 in each perched section .Then at first ,pair first 16 hens to cocks and let them rear young then split ,next pair the second lot of hens rear young if required then split.So before you basket them for club night friday,do you just let them run the gether and basket up whats fit an bouncing ,it actualy sounds better than boxed up. I will await your reply ,and if anyone else has input i would be glad to hear from you thanks.

[Wiley]

No phil you have it muddled. Say you race 8 cocks, your middle compartment has 4 nest boxes, in both sections with v perches the cocks stay all week, they both are let out separated and trapped in there own v perch section. Friday evening afternoon is the only time they exercise together, and the trap into the middle compartment, where they have reared there young birds no hens are present on a Friday, they'll fight in the boxes but you must put them in separate baskets. There box is there domain. On a Saturday they trap to the middle section however the first cock home to his box goes in with the hen the later cock sees the cock and his hen for a few minutes and is Placed back to his section however the cock who came first gets his hen till late evening.

[philg50]

Bear with me Wiley yer dealing with a 40 year age gap ,so its 8 cocks paired on with 4 hens am i right ,in middle section then split after breeding ,infact you could move young with first lot o cocks to finish of .I have 12 boxes so could i see to 24 cocks and a dozen hens am i on track now ,i bet u wish u hadnt started this corespondence,thanks.

[Wiley]

The number doesn't matter as long as you have double the amount of cocks to hens. Cocks in section 1 paired and rear in middle section. Then placed in there v perch compartment. Then section 3 cocks paired to the hens in middle section, rear and placed back in section 3.

[Guest Owen]

Sounds good in theory but this sort of system only gives you a short season. The cocks soon get wise to it and will not be motivated but become frustrated. I have never tried it on long races but I doubt if it will work too well on long hard slogs. At the end of the day there is only one way to find out. Try in and make your judgement on the results.

[Wiley]

Owen this system wouldn't and doesn't work over 300 miles. But it last the full season with modifications.What I have said is the basics

[philg50]

As you say trial is the best proof and thanks for your help and comments ,i understand you now wiley and come the longer races in the future a tweek here an there might sort that out .In the distant past i did get a bird or twa out of Sartilly ,but one step at a time we will concentrate on 60mile from Brechin in a fortnight since iv been away from the doos for 10yr looking forward to it good luck to you both on your racing ,and thanks.