Roland Posted March 9, 2013 Report Posted March 9, 2013 I think the Irish and France game will be a very hard and brutal game. A win at all costs here and should be a very good and exciting game to watch. I lean ashamedly to the French for a win here. They were favourites because of the class and strengths at the beginning of the season. One doesn't become a bad side over night. Something to prove more than the Irish I fear here. It is good to see the changes in the English side. Good and classy players coming in, mostly with a little national experience with Flood and Care etc. It shows the depth of the squad etc. But overall it is amazing how few international caps have actually been won between them. Many under ten, and even more still under 5! That must auger well for the future and the W/C which ALL sides must now have one eye on. It is, of course it is, the right game to make these changes in a learning curve and gelling together against - not being unkind - to a Italian side full of grit and groan and triers giving their all .. if not top flight in the main. Shocks can, and do happen of course, but it would be a bit harder to say the least to experiment any against the Welsh which will really be up for it as usual with a vengeance against the English next week.Yes the Lions Tour will be another for some no doubt. Can't see for the life of me why Rob Shaw won't be captain there also. Young and learning fast. OK he made a mistake against S. Africa which most likely cost the English the game... Beat the all Blacks a feat within it's self
Amanda Posted March 9, 2013 Report Posted March 9, 2013 Watching Scotland V Wales, they have just announced a new record for the amount of penalties in a game 12 so far Scotland 18= 20 Wales. wish they would hurry up and blow the bloody whistel
Amanda Posted March 9, 2013 Report Posted March 9, 2013 what a finish to the game, a tide of Scots pushing to get to the line. The Welsh managed to hold them off. Hurry up and blow the whistle Wales are singing, its in the bag for us Final score Scotland 18 - Wales 28 Always a great game between these to. Well played Scotland Well done Sam Warburton man of the match Well done Wales
ALF Posted March 9, 2013 Report Posted March 9, 2013 Wales played really well as a team well done to them today
Roland Posted March 9, 2013 Author Report Posted March 9, 2013 Well I think , personally that that ref was so bad he is after that Welshman's title of worst ref this season. The one that doesn't even deserve to be named. I was only interested in seeing a good and fair game having no bias either way as to whom I wanted to win. The commentators put it nicely as inconsistent ... mostly against the Scots. To say he was poor in the least would be a sad joke. I think the Welsh edged it of course, but what help they had that could so easy have been so different. JMO As for the game, well I can't believe the poor kicking. On this showing it certainly makes England look good. No Owen I don't think Wales have a cat in hells chance next week. Besides if England do what is likely tomorrow against Italy, then the points difference would be insurmountable.Yes I know the Welsh want to beat England more than anything and will give it their all. But I fear it is but a loss cause.
Roland Posted March 10, 2013 Author Report Posted March 10, 2013 Well proof in the pudding eh. I've put myself up to be shot down lol Come on England :002: :002:
Amanda Posted March 10, 2013 Report Posted March 10, 2013 And ive got my gun ready, well its a water pistol really but hay ho. As you can tell im banking on the Welsh beating England. Then it will be and plenty of and i'll be
Guest Owen Posted March 11, 2013 Report Posted March 11, 2013 Someone please call the RAC. There is a chriot in trouble at Twickenham.Could you please ask them to be available at Cardiff in a week.
Roland Posted March 11, 2013 Author Report Posted March 11, 2013 Someone please call the RAC. There is a chriot in trouble at Twickenham.Could you please ask them to be available at Cardiff in a week. Owen tell the welsh boys not to be too worried ... We will be gentle and take it easy when we win lol. Personally I think it is a bit of English class against the tanacity and win at all costs of the welsh ... But afraid class will out lol. :002: :002:
Guest Owen Posted March 11, 2013 Report Posted March 11, 2013 I hope the English think that they are a class above the rest of us. They will hype the game up all week and come out next week like scalded cats. Once that bit of energy is out of the way we will get on with the real work of scoring points. We Welsh are all ready to have a nice day Saturday and a nice time reading the newspapers on Sunday.
Guest Owen Posted March 11, 2013 Report Posted March 11, 2013 Since my last post I have had a word with the lads. They are glad to have the tag of underdogs and are busy going about the business of preparing for Saturday. They value the fact that they have been in tough contests before because they think they can handle the pressure. As this week goes by the English Press will scream, shout, threaten and promise the moon and generally build up the expectations. At the end of the day it is all just like Pigeon Racing talk is cheap and it is results that count. This year I have had loads of people telling me I am a "Has Been" and how this one and that one are going to put me in my place. It was the same last year but I still came out smiling. The Welsh Team and my Widowhood Team will just get on with the job of preparation quietly and be ready for the contest when it comes.
Roland Posted March 11, 2013 Author Report Posted March 11, 2013 Owen, well said... I remember though you calling not only the English style of play, but also the way the welsh played. I said then that a win is a win and it is results that count. So you agree then now, and we agree on something. Had a ragging in 2003 from some of my Aussie mates on the net, when we lifted the W/C with a last minute kicked drop goal. The Aussies said 'It is now way to win a world cup ….' I said one has to play to their' strengths, and cover their' weaknesses. That a few years down the line it will still be England Won in the record books, and how long and forgotten - outside of a few fierce Aussies lol. But you know, after this intense and physical struggle on Saturday – which I have no doubt it will be - I hope you will still buy me a pint when we meet lol. The biggest fear I have is after that brutal game against the Irish is that some won't want any more like that and yield a mite. Those that will, and there will quite possibly be one or two, still need to be tested. This game will show them up. I can't see any Welshman side stepping though. I think it is more about laying the foundations and gearing the sides up for the W/C. which is what really counts and matters. So a loss that will learn an great deal, and one that puts experience on the table will be all important for both sides. Class, as Ashton proved, struggles against seasoned pro's. But the youngster have to go through it ... and the sooner the better. So I think much of this coming game will be bad tempered which may reflect on the score via penalties. So Owen I believe that that result will be more on those use use their heads rather than their hearts.P.s. I have always thought of you as a determined winner mucker.
Guest strapper Posted March 12, 2013 Report Posted March 12, 2013 lets hope its a red win i know expectations werent that very good ,when previous matches against other opposition left us with zero wins prior to this 6 nations. nice to see you getting better owen...hear youve been in the hospital m8.? and for those that feel you havent got it like you have done.... dont try to teach an old dog new tricks...because he can still beat you with his old ones
Guest Owen Posted March 12, 2013 Report Posted March 12, 2013 Paul, my usual preparations are awful this year. I have left hospital a week ago after having a replacement knee, my second. The first one was not very successful and still gives me a lot of pain but I am hoping for the best with this new one. Unfortunately I have now got a nasty infection to deal with but I reckon that it will take time to be back to some sort of fitness.Usually I have my birds building up to a state of fitness by this time but they are still confined to the loft at the moment. My wife has done a magnificent job helping me out but it has been hard for her to fit it in around her work. I reckon it will be another 2 weeks before I can start work with them. That is if the Perigrines and Goshawks give me a chance to get them going.I have about 26 cocks to race. 14 adults and 12 yearlings. All the older cocks are winners and about half the yearlings so I don't really mind if I have to delay racing them until next year. If I do I will sell the adults cocks this Autumn to make way for the youngsters that will want their place in next years race team.So as you see I am working against the odds at the moment but I reckon I can punch my wieght again even if it has to be with the youngsters.In regard to match. I am looking forward to it but as long as it is a good game I will be happy. I think we have had a set back due to the fact that Ryan Jones is injured. Apart from the fact that he is a top player we will miss his leadership. My family are Rugby Mad and they are getting into a right old state. By Saturday they will be up like kites.
Roland Posted March 12, 2013 Author Report Posted March 12, 2013 Spent some time in Swansea recently. Wanted to meet up with some old sporting mates etc. Got talking to some locals and had a bit of leg pulling and good banter (Surprisingly lol) I asked if the rivalry is still keen between Cardiff and Swansea guessing that it was. The most amusing thing said was 'It is more personal and can get a bit out of hand and go over the top somewhat these days ... unless of course they have join hands to vent their' wrath at the English lol. Nationalistic eh. Yes I believe it means more than a win to them / you, be it the Welsh, Scots or the Irish. More a feather in the cap getting one over the 'Old Foe' lol. You know, coming to being proud of their national in-heritage. Well it just doesn't happen. Never has, but may do a little more as time goes by. Most English don't even know who St. George was, let alone when St. Georges day is. Never told about it at school or what not … used to have a May Queen and that was about it. Though that and the Maypole are long gone. I think London is more supportive and what not. Goes along with their 'Pearly Kings and Queens' like. We get told to take the flags out of the Cars and taken down from the Bedrooms and what not ... Meant a lot more take note and go out their way to put flags up - like Xmas decorations, having been told not to put any up outside by the councils. So I guess it would now be up to 5% who know the day and raise a flag. So it isn't ever a be all end all, or something other than a 'bigger Game' here. Sad, or no. Shamefully or not.
Guest Owen Posted March 12, 2013 Report Posted March 12, 2013 To me although I like being Welsh and I am very proud of what 3 million of us can do against the overwhelming odds from elsewhere, I believe my surname has much more importance.My surname comes from the border areas of Scotland and we were once one of the principle Reever families who patrolled the Debatable Lands of the time. In those days no-one considered themselves as Scottish, Welsh or English because they were more concerned with survival. In these modern days when family loyalties have have often been ignored and abandoned family loyalty has often been forgotten. However as people become more and more vulnerable from unemployment and various pressures which makes it hard to support and care for their dependents family loyalties are becoming important again. Here in Wales we have a much closer relationship with our neighbours than most and sometimes it feels like we belong to a really big family. Our rugby stars are often known personally to us and there is a great closeness between the Public and the Team Members. So when our team plays there is a lot of information passed about the details of game and how both opposition and team members behaved. The whole thing can become much more than a game where winning is nice and loosing is unpleasant. When we win the high can go on for weeks and the whole Country feels happy and the sun shines brighter. When we loose as we did a little while ago no-one seems to want to be optimistic any more and there is no doubt a depression can set in.So there will be a lot of adrenaline pumped around next Saturday and tears will flow hopefully from joy.
Roland Posted March 13, 2013 Author Report Posted March 13, 2013 And the beauty is Owen that the Welsh are the true English, or so we were taught at school. Here is the English side win we are happy for a few hours... or till the pub closes lol. If England win and you speak or ask about, mention the game, most don't know what you are talking about. 'Oh I did see something about it on the news lol - Football a bit better, but sadly I'd say less than 15% of the actually public support and go to the games, let alone care. If, and when we lose, those that know take to berating the team and manager saying things like 'Well what do you expect, we never were any good... That manager, what's his name is rubbish'. I doubt very much if 10% of the whole population know who the Rugby manager is. Or even that a game is on. They skip over anything the eye don't relate or take notice off. Big games and tournaments a lot better of course. Athletics get a lot of media attention of course so this heightens the interest somewhat for the minute ... The Olympic was equally taken a lot of notice throughout the whole UK of course. We, many of us and concerns, wave our flags and try to arouse interest and support. Best mostly is 'We will see ... what we are doing that day lol. Joyce and I, for instance, try very had to get the family to watch Rugby. None so far. Had dinner down the daughters and son - laws for mothers day Saturday ( A day early to suit in- laws on Ricky's side etc.). Dinner was nigh cold and left that way because we hogged the tele to watch the game. Tried to eat it at half time ... when Ricky put it on hold. Ricky plays football, runs the marathons and has been to the last Twickenham game against Wales ... think his mates wanted to go, says great and enjoyed it ... not the result and watches it on tele let alone ever been since. But did take a trip with his family to the U.S.A. to watch Hatton got beat lol. Spent a little time in Hattons company ... But Rugby is never played at schools outside the private ones. I had a Welsh P.E. Master that made us play but could find another school to play against
Guest TAMMY_1 Posted March 13, 2013 Report Posted March 13, 2013 Well proof in the pudding eh. I've put myself up to be shot down lol Come on England :002: :002:have to agree with you Roland :002:
Amanda Posted March 17, 2013 Report Posted March 17, 2013 Well proof in the pudding eh. I've put myself up to be shot down lol Come on England :002: :002: have to agree with you Roland :002: BANG BANG Roland :devil: admin can we have one of these only with a Welsh dragon on it please, i think we deserve after yeasterdays game
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