Midlothian Fed Gold Ring Race

[blaz]

their was a gold ring race some years ago in midlothian fed. if it came about to have the same again next year would midlothian members on hear be intrested. would be run the same way

[WELSH WIZARD]

I count me in Gary mate

[b.massey]

Why no eh

[1967]

Had the chance this year plus the 2 bird club no one wanted it only 4 members from Newtongrange & 8 from Easthouses Intrested

[b.massey]

I spoke about having a 2 bird club and the whole of rosewell was interested. Also a few members from polton and bonnyrig said yes to me. I think there was a miss understanding about the 2 bird thing as we never got any actual info! I think a 2 bird would be well supported

[1967]

All club secs were sent a letter asking to give feedback on gold ring. 2 bird club. b/buyer and fed dance only 2 clubs replied one not intrested because they run own 6 bird club everything was scrapped due to lack of intrest

[blaz]

their will be a letter given out at delegates meeting to see if their is enough intrest. will put a copy up on hear when it is done

[blaz]

i would take 5 rings and 5 to kenny thats 10 .how many would you take

[tyson]

you propose it gary I will second it £5 a ring no limit to be flowm either the 3rd last or 2nd last young bird race 2 prizes split 60/40 what do you think??

[blaz]

it will be £10 per bird no limit race newark yb .it was done years ago with a £1000 1st prize down to 9th prize £50.it was run by alan gibson and 2 others.if we can get it going again it will be alan gibson evlyn and myself that will run it.

[tyson]

gary if you make it £10 a ring and flown from last young bird race I dont think you will get many takers better £5 a ring and fly for it as I said either from the 3rd / or 2nd last race as how many go to the last race jmo

[b.massey]

Think an important thing that needs done along with this idea is a 2 bird. I know it was proposed but I think it should just be took on and if only 10 members that's fine! Don't need every single fed flier to opt in. Midlothian fed is sadly expensive to fly in with none of this type thing going on to give us good pool\prize money to fly for! Really think we should be as if you can't win your money to pay for birds that's reason fed and pigeon fanciers are declining

[tyson]

brian how do get that midlothian is expensive to fly in??

[b.massey]

Hows it no?? Membership fee's and ferrying fee's. With nothing to be given back Peter

[tyson]

brian if members wont partipate in things the fed try to run to bring income into fed like breeder buyer sales late bred sales christmas raffle then how can we bring the cost down if the members particapate in these things then we could possibly bring the cost down . what ideas have you got I await in anticapation ??

[b.massey]

brian if members wont partipate in things the fed try to run to bring income into fed like breeder buyer sales late bred sales christmas raffle then how can we bring the cost down if the members particapate in these things then we could possibly bring the cost down . what ideas have you got I await in anticapation ??

 

Well can start with having the LB sale at a better date. Who is looking to buy LB's so late in Sept?? Why not run a show and encourage the Midlothian Fed Members by having specific classes for the Midlothian Guys! We ran one in 2010 for the club and made over 300pound. Not a massive amount but all money in bank and a day out for fed members. Even kill 2 birds with 1 stone and combine it with the presentation of Fed trophies to further more encourage fanciers out! I am not saying having a 2 Bird will give the fed any income. It would encourage fanciers and give them something to fly for.

 

I will ask a simple question Peter and without any politics involved!

 

If I was a new member in this area taking up pigeons what would be your selling point of making me come to the Midlothian Fed? When I have another Fed there with a pull towards big money being flown for?

 

Now its a simple question! I am also not in any way saying I dont wanna fly in Midlothian. I am happy with the fed but there becomes a point when you look at the finances of the year and think "Hold on a min"

[tyson]

brian if you want to do away with ferrying fee that is your choice you just ferry your pigeons to the transporter but work it out as all it is costing each member to have there birds picked up is approx £1.50 per week if you can get someone to ferry your birds in cheaper than this then good on you but I think you will find it hard

[b.massey]

brian if you want to do away with ferrying fee that is your choice you just ferry your pigeons to the transporter but work it out as all it is costing each member to have there birds picked up is approx £1.50 per week if you can get someone to ferry your birds in cheaper than this then good on you but I think you will find it hard

 

That the selling point?

 

Why not propose birdage is 50p for all races up to the Nationals? Would the extra 15p per pigeon for the races under 200mile races pay the ferrying?

[tyson]

brian at the end of the day they are flying for pool money if a member cant afford to pool his pigeons then he cant pool them If you wanted you could have open pools every week in the fed but who would pool in them just like when evelyn put out feed back forms for 2 bird club and what happened 2 clubs showed interest if you want to try to fly for big pools then you should go and try the other fed they will take your money okay but the position you lie in I dont think you would see much return

[b.massey]

brian at the end of the day they are flying for pool money if a member cant afford to pool his pigeons then he cant pool them If you wanted you could have open pools every week in the fed but who would pool in them just like when evelyn put out feed back forms for 2 bird club and what happened 2 clubs showed interest if you want to try to fly for big pools then you should go and try the other fed they will take your money okay but the position you lie in I dont think you would see much return

 

Not saying for a second I'd take there money flying in any position. And the reason I probably aint in it right now attempting is mainly because of my position up here. How ever am more concerned for Midlothian Fed and only asked if I was a new starter what would draw me in to it. Well I know of 8 fanciers I spoke to that have said they would do a 2 bird pools each week. I dont think having it proposed between delegates is the answer as feed back dont come back to the members sometimes. How ever my 8 plus the 8 easthouses and 4 Newtongrange that was said earlier gives 20 members. All pay 10pound to join and go for it I say. Just set it up and let who ever wants to fly in it fly. I would think as the weeks pass more would join. I am even more confident that under 150miles I'd be just giving donations each week but I am stupid and I like the thought of maybe just maybe winning some money! I managed to get the pools Newark open with 5 birds sent. So thats all I need a year to please me. Just the chance of winning Peter

[tyson]

brian the best thing to do is put your ideas to yor members at meeting and get them put forward as proposals for agm that is my advice there is no harm in trying then it is up to the members at agm whether they want it or not as I have said you cannot force people to pool there pigeons as in the present climate we are in in people are finding it hard just to keep in the sport

[b.massey]

Will do Peter mate

[tyson]

one other thing brian I proposed last year for every member to pay £150 with free birdage all races except open races which would be 50p this was working out that if you sent over 300 birds in the season old and young birds then you were saving money but got thrown out as members did not relise that they were going to save money olso it gave the fed the money up front to run the fed

[b.massey]

Peter i got what you meant and would have done it

[calder boy]

you say each memeber pay 150 up front how many times has that been that we have to put money up front in this fed