lanarkshire lad Posted June 2, 2012 Report Posted June 2, 2012 Read with interest colins column regarding the peregrine population in the uk.Once again he states a WELL KNOWN FACT that Cumbria lake District has the largest density of peregrine falcons in the world. Now i canny get my heed round how the F any pigeon fancier in their right mind would want to race there pigeons in that area it really baffles me and yet we here in Lanarkshire are doing just that and then wonder why we get a Stinker of a race from uttoxeter in an east wind which would push the pigeons straight through that area.The fact is pigeons have been reported from the four corners from that race THE SCATTER EFFECT. I think that answers a few questions.On wednesday this week myself and jim hannah liberated a good few hundred pigeons from elsrickle which is about a 35min toss to me. While the pigeons were making there mind up which way to go a peregrine Falcon went into them and took one watched by myself and jim hannah the batch of pigeons then broke into 3 groups 2 large groups and a small one and headed straight away in the right direction. Now when i arrived home i had only one pigeon home normally they would have all been home no probs but within an hour they were all home coming in ones and twos so i was lucky but some of my clubmates had them coming the next morning and thats only from 20 odd mile. The point i am trying to make is how many times is his happening on a saturday from hundreds of miles away coming through heavily populated areas like there is on the WEST ROUTE the pigeons have it hard enough without us making it harder for them Oh and i dont agree that its only your bad ones that you loose .
dal2 Posted June 2, 2012 Report Posted June 2, 2012 Read with interest colins column regarding the peregrine population in the uk.Once again he states a WELL KNOWN FACT that Cumbria lake District has the largest density of peregrine falcons in the world. Now i canny get my heed round how the F any pigeon fancier in their right mind would want to race there pigeons in that area it really baffles me and yet we here in Lanarkshire are doing just that and then wonder why we get a Stinker of a race from uttoxeter in an east wind which would push the pigeons straight through that area.The fact is pigeons have been reported from the four corners from that race THE SCATTER EFFECT. I think that answers a few questions.On wednesday this week myself and jim hannah liberated a good few hundred pigeons from elsrickle which is about a 35min toss to me. While the pigeons were making there mind up which way to go a peregrine Falcon went into them and took one watched by myself and jim hannah the batch of pigeons then broke into 3 groups 2 large groups and a small one and headed straight away in the right direction. Now when i arrived home i had only one pigeon home normally they would have all been home no probs but within an hour they were all home coming in ones and twos so i was lucky but some of my clubmates had them coming the next morning and thats only from 20 odd mile. The point i am trying to make is how many times is his happening on a saturday from hundreds of miles away coming through heavily populated areas like there is on the WEST ROUTE the pigeons have it hard enough without us making it harder for them Oh and i dont agree that its only your bad ones that you loose .Ye thats right the west does have lots of the percy, how many on the east? Now before we start aboot valleys etc on the west and how much easier it is to dodge percy when racin from the east( I dont know if anywhere is easy to dodge) please bear in mind that us poor souls in the south have switched continously from east to west and have found racin equally as dodgy on both sides? Could the east wind be a big factor on the racin recently? I myself am struggling to remember as many east winds from the start as this year and it surely cant help??
lanarkshire lad Posted June 2, 2012 Author Report Posted June 2, 2012 Ye thats right the west does have lots of the percy, how many on the east? Now before we start aboot valleys etc on the west and how much easier it is to dodge percy when racin from the east( I dont know if anywhere is easy to dodge) please bear in mind that us poor souls in the south have switched continously from east to west and have found racin equally as dodgy on both sides? Could the east wind be a big factor on the racin recently? I myself am struggling to remember as many east winds from the start as this year and it surely cant help??The message is clear stay as far away as possible from high Density Perry areas unless you want to f up your doos big time.
mazzie Posted June 2, 2012 Report Posted June 2, 2012 it hard no matter what route you go there everywhere , east west south and north hawks are ever where ruining our sport
lanarkshire lad Posted June 2, 2012 Author Report Posted June 2, 2012 it hard no matter what route you go there everywhere , east west south and north hawks are ever where ruining our sportYes your right they are everywhere but hey not in the same numbers as the WEST THATS A FACT expletive remove.
dal2 Posted June 2, 2012 Report Posted June 2, 2012 The message is clear stay as far away as possible from high Density Perry areas unless you want to f up your doos big time. Where are we racin frae? The boys on the east have a sticky or bad race yin week then the same on west???Do you not think this is the hand we are delt and should be more proactive??
Guest stb- Posted June 2, 2012 Report Posted June 2, 2012 (edited) Read with interest colins column regarding the peregrine population in the uk.Once again he states a WELL KNOWN FACT that Cumbria lake District has the largest density of peregrine falcons in the world. Now i canny get my heed round how the F any pigeon fancier in their right mind would want to race there pigeons in that area it really baffles me and yet we here in Lanarkshire are doing just that and then wonder why we get a Stinker of a race from uttoxeter in an east wind which would push the pigeons straight through that area.The fact is pigeons have been reported from the four corners from that race THE SCATTER EFFECT. I think that answers a few questions.On wednesday this week myself and jim hannah liberated a good few hundred pigeons from elsrickle which is about a 35min toss to me. While the pigeons were making there mind up which way to go a peregrine Falcon went into them and took one watched by myself and jim hannah the batch of pigeons then broke into 3 groups 2 large groups and a small one and headed straight away in the right direction. Now when i arrived home i had only one pigeon home normally they would have all been home no probs but within an hour they were all home coming in ones and twos so i was lucky but some of my clubmates had them coming the next morning and thats only from 20 odd mile. The point i am trying to make is how many times is his happening on a saturday from hundreds of miles away coming through heavily populated areas like there is on the WEST ROUTE the pigeons have it hard enough without us making it harder for them Oh and i dont agree that its only your bad ones that you loose .Jim this seems to happen to evry man that tosses doos there peebles elsrickle lanark etc , percie in right away . ive had 2 peebles this year and a lanark and been hammered way percie everytime expletive remove its just like the bassas waiting for trainers , today around 1.30 there was 2 percies in the valley close to me just soaring around , this seems to be a regular habit at around 1pn and 2 pm every saturday would agree aboot the west route but your getting parcied on the east asweel now plenty homming having been hawked Edited June 2, 2012 by stb-
airdrie2 Posted June 2, 2012 Report Posted June 2, 2012 it hard no matter what route you go there everywhere , east west south and north hawks are ever where ruining our sportwell said martin and i agree but 6 weeks down the west route and i have lost more than 3 seasons down the east
mazzie Posted June 2, 2012 Report Posted June 2, 2012 hi rab ma young ones have been out of lanrk lochs about 12 times now and not been hit yet always let them up in 3 batches peebles i dont go near , but ma old birds are flying for a hour and a bit so dont realy need traing
mazzie Posted June 2, 2012 Report Posted June 2, 2012 ano a would honestly love to try one week west , one week east for ybs so if they are scattered they mite find there way home and the reason as ybs is cause whens its in there head as babies they never lose it good idea or bad idea
Guest stb- Posted June 2, 2012 Report Posted June 2, 2012 (edited) Where are we racin frae? The boys on the east have a sticky or bad race yin week then the same on west???Do you not think this is the hand we are delt and should be more proactive??i was always told when starting doos , DONT SEND YOUR BEST DOOS IN EAST WINDS , THE UNFORTUNATE THING IS the winds have been east since mid april and have i never seen so many , you always got 1 or 2 at the start then an odd one mid to late season , normally always stinkers , Edited June 2, 2012 by stb-
lanarkshire lad Posted June 2, 2012 Author Report Posted June 2, 2012 well said martin and i agree but 6 weeks down the west route and i have lost more than 3 seasons down the eastThis seems to be the Norm for most lofts and to say that its only your rubbish that you are loosing is CAVE MAN STUFF.
dal2 Posted June 2, 2012 Report Posted June 2, 2012 i was always told when starting doos , DONT SEND YOUR BEST DOOS IN EAST WINDS , THE UNFORTUNATE THING IS the winds have been east since mid april and have i never seen so many , you always got 1 or 2 at the start then an odd one mid to late season , normally always stinkers ,100% Rab, this is the big prob this year IMO!!! I hate using that IMO cos really it leaves people to believe you are set in that way of mind which I am not!!!Clearly the percy is a wanker but my point is that the same kind of wanker is all around now???The west has been P*** but I am inclined to think that the East, nae geed for man nor beast, has done a lot of damage also????
Guest stb- Posted June 2, 2012 Report Posted June 2, 2012 hi rab ma young ones have been out of lanrk lochs about 12 times now and not been hit yet always let them up in 3 batches peebles i dont go near , but ma old birds are flying for a hour and a bit so dont realy need trainghi martin only had 2 peebles but been unlucky i suppose and had one lanark on wed afternoon lost a good 2 yr old cock and got my last weeks timmer home ripped to bits , prob wrong place at wrong time ,have only had 4 tosses from the east this year and percie was into them 3 times oot the 4 , a have more or less given up tossing them , to dodgy
lanarkshire lad Posted June 2, 2012 Author Report Posted June 2, 2012 100% Rab, this is the big prob this year IMO!!! I hate using that IMO cos really it leaves people to believe you are set in that way of mind which I am not!!!Clearly the percy is a wanker but my point is that the same kind of wanker is all around now???The west has been P*** but I am inclined to think that the East, nae geed for man nor beast, has done a lot of damage also????Theres no doubt an East wind has a bad effect on pigeons thats for sure but this west route has also a bad Effect on the pigeons.Four years ago Lanarkshire tried it! and what Happened? They called an EgM to get it changed back to the EAST,and i dont think the EAST WINDS had anything to do with it four year ago expletive remove.
dal2 Posted June 2, 2012 Report Posted June 2, 2012 Theres no doubt an East wind has a bad effect on pigeons thats for sure but this west route has also a bad Effect on the pigeons.Four years ago Lanarkshire tried it! and what Happened? They called an EgM to get it changed back to the EAST,and i dont think the EAST WINDS had anything to do with it four year ago expletive remove. Wot are we gan to do then???? If there is no percy and no bad racin on the east then we should all race east then??But we have been there and there was bad racin just the same?????Its a prob for sure!There are men on here sayin they dinny toss frae peebles gan frae east tae west???Wot have we tae make of that???Mike Currie says he is feart tae let his ybs oot in the heart of the west???MAYBE WE SHOULD RACE NORTH????? BUT MY SPRINTERS WOULD BE FOOKED???? Rab will get that!!!Am off tae bed tae dream of the 80s and wish the plaque on the BOP!!!
yeboah Posted June 2, 2012 Report Posted June 2, 2012 Got to agree with comments regarding east winds especially cold strong east winds just in from walking the dog and the wind factor feels like 5 degrees bloody awful ,temp inside the hut today said 9 degrees last weekend it said 26 degrees some drop in seven days,yes the bop are everywhere now no matter where we go are in most cities really we are only supplying the food chain but whats the choice waste money on a saturday and go watch scottish football me no thinks so .
lanarkshire lad Posted June 2, 2012 Author Report Posted June 2, 2012 Wot are we gan to do then???? If there is no percy and no bad racin on the east then we should all race east then??But we have been there and there was bad racin just the same?????Its a prob for sure!There are men on here sayin they dinny toss frae peebles gan frae east tae west???Wot have we tae make of that???Mike Currie says he is feart tae let his ybs oot in the heart of the west???MAYBE WE SHOULD RACE NORTH????? BUT MY SPRINTERS WOULD BE FOOKED???? Rab will get that!!!Am off tae bed tae dream of the 80s and wish the plaque on the BOP!!!Naebody said theres nae percys on the East but here in Lanarkshire we have had six races from the west and believe me theres plenty doos GOOD doos down the f tubes in six races.The truth is i canny remember EVER having such a bad OLD bird race from the EAST ROUTE EVER as that uttoxeter last week.
dal2 Posted June 2, 2012 Report Posted June 2, 2012 Naebody said theres nae percys on the East but here in Lanarkshire we have had six races from the west and believe me theres plenty doos GOOD doos down the f tubes in six races.The truth is i canny remember EVER having such a bad OLD bird race from the EAST ROUTE EVER as that uttoxeter last week.Fair enuff mate we canny agree what routes best. But thats nae shock cos doo men canny agree on nowt??/I am not bothered aboot wot route we take but just think you will get stinkers frae anywhere now and in the past, ie Hastings in the 80s???, but sometimes we blank them bad races oot and forget that the good old days wer no so brill????Bill Wortley said to the old boy the other day aboot a race in the late 70s!!!! Grahamie initially said he couldnae remember but wusnae long before he pulled the details oot tae find he never clocked frae 200 miles????? Bad racin is nowt new? Is it??maybe more frequent???
Guest stb- Posted June 2, 2012 Report Posted June 2, 2012 Fair enuff mate we canny agree what routes best. But thats nae shock cos doo men canny agree on nowt??/I am not bothered aboot wot route we take but just think you will get stinkers frae anywhere now and in the past, ie Hastings in the 80s???, but sometimes we blank them bad races oot and forget that the good old days wer no so brill????Bill Wortley said to the old boy the other day aboot a race in the late 70s!!!! Grahamie initially said he couldnae remember but wusnae long before he pulled the details oot tae find he never clocked frae 200 miles????? Bad racin is nowt new? Is it??maybe more frequent???9 times oot of 10 there were east winds and clear skys in them dissasters , say no more
lanarkshire lad Posted June 2, 2012 Author Report Posted June 2, 2012 Fair enuff mate we canny agree what routes best. But thats nae shock cos doo men canny agree on nowt??/I am not bothered aboot wot route we take but just think you will get stinkers frae anywhere now and in the past, ie Hastings in the 80s???, but sometimes we blank them bad races oot and forget that the good old days wer no so brill????Bill Wortley said to the old boy the other day aboot a race in the late 70s!!!! Grahamie initially said he couldnae remember but wusnae long before he pulled the details oot tae find he never clocked frae 200 miles????? Bad racin is nowt new? Is it??maybe more frequent???Hastings in the Eighties was a controlling problem the pigeons were washed out with rain if i remember correctly.
dal2 Posted June 2, 2012 Report Posted June 2, 2012 Hastings in the Eighties was a controlling problem the pigeons were washed out with rain if i remember correctly.It was caused by a har!! It was the same day as the oil plant gan on fire or summit???But bad races did happen folks and always will??I hope we find a solution but just not sure that route holds the answer?Nite Nite
lanarkshire lad Posted June 2, 2012 Author Report Posted June 2, 2012 It was caused by a har!! It was the same day as the oil plant gan on fire or summit???But bad races did happen folks and always will??I hope we find a solution but just not sure that route holds the answer?Nite NiteGood nite mate Thats a long way back to remember a real bad race from the east.
Guest bigda Posted June 2, 2012 Report Posted June 2, 2012 if the west wind had to return I think racing from IRELAND would be the safest route, THERE MIGHT NOT BE DISTANCE IN IT but the next step could be the hire of a boat to take them 200 mile out to sea, to give 500- 600 mile races, the birds would have a chance as the furthest loft would be about 30mile in land from west to east, giving it that, if the birds STARBURST from the Irish coast, the furthest you would get out of Ireland inland, would be about 345mile into the lanarkshire. we used to race from skibereen. it would help Ayrshire and the solway as the gauntlet would not be far to run hit the coast and the birds would be in the shed, before the bop got airborne
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