Guest bigda Posted August 8, 2011 Report Posted August 8, 2011 if ivermectin really works would it possibly be made mandatory that when your birds get rubbed or scanned that the also get a dab of the solution, just to keep control of the pests that attack there skini am sure this would help and for so little cost, the clubs would only need a few bottles per year. would you all agree to this. every little helps, and with a few good club members making sure this was done,and failure to comply would mean no racing for them
just ask me Posted August 8, 2011 Report Posted August 8, 2011 ivermectin kills worms that it please pm me any info anyone else has to say it does otherwise
just ask me Posted August 8, 2011 Report Posted August 8, 2011 ivermectin kills worms that it please pm me any info anyone else has to say it does otherwise ive been asking for info for about 2 year now and still have seen noting there plenty of ways to find out what the falconry men use to worm there birds of prey and ivermectin is one of there favourite wormers
Guest paulrstokes Posted August 8, 2011 Report Posted August 8, 2011 where can I get this, and can it be bnought over the counter
frank-123 Posted August 8, 2011 Report Posted August 8, 2011 if ivermectin really works would it possibly be made mandatory that when your birds get rubbed or scanned that the also get a dab of the solution, just to keep control of the pests that attack there skini am sure this would help and for so little cost, the clubs would only need a few bottles per year. would you all agree to this. every little helps, and with a few good club members making sure this was done,and failure to comply would mean no racing for them Think that's the first post I have ever agreed with you got to be the good ivermectin need someone standing at the basket nobody can opt out if they want to opt out they don't go Bring it up at the Agm do you think it would pass?
just ask me Posted August 8, 2011 Report Posted August 8, 2011 taken from a vet that treats bop Capillaria Capillaria is also called Small Roundworms typically picked up from crows or small birds. These roundworms, Capillaria amulata, embed themselves in the lining of the esophagus, crop, or small intestine. Typically, a very low level of these is seen. As they are very difficult to get rid of, unless it poses a problem to the bird's health, the low levels of infestation are acceptable. Some of the marks of this disease are depression, weakness, weight loss, diarrhea, "sitting," coughing, gasping, anemia, excessive salivation, and bad breath. Note that there are two manifestations, one of which looks very much like Frounce. There is some work being done in Europe to identify a successful course of treatment. This involves Thiabendazole, but is lengthy, stressful for the bird, and not guaranteed. Ivermectin is a preferred treatment in a single dose of about 0.2mg/kg of body weight, but this is not always effective. Panacur or Levamasole may also be used to address it. Many vets will advise to leave it alone if there is only a very low level present as it is almost always present even in a healthy bird's system. http://www.themodernapprentice.com/diseases.htm
just ask me Posted August 8, 2011 Report Posted August 8, 2011 there are also 1000s and 1000s of posts on bop forums of them using ivermectin
Roland Posted August 8, 2011 Report Posted August 8, 2011 ivermectin has different strengths and names. The Pour on works regardless of the PR crap the RSPB would have - and do - have you believe. Never used on falcons till they found out 'Pour On' works. But the ordinary ivermectin would have to be a large doss to have a permant effect.
just ask me Posted August 8, 2011 Report Posted August 8, 2011 ivermectin has different strengths and names. The Pour on works regardless of the PR crap the RSPB would have - and do - have you believe. Never used on falcons till they found out 'Pour On' works. But the ordinary ivermectin would have to be a large doss to have a permant effect. they use the pour on stuff roland ive seen it with my own eyes
just ask me Posted August 8, 2011 Report Posted August 8, 2011 and a old thread from here http://forum.pigeonbasics.org/topic/45290-bloody-hawks/page__hl__Ivermectin where i have asked before too
just ask me Posted August 8, 2011 Report Posted August 8, 2011 ive posted this before this info comes from the fda anyone that works within the medical industry would know who these people are they test every drug etc that comes onto the market everything goes through them Environmental assessment of avermectins by the US food and drug administration Purchase$ 31.50Raanan A. Bloom, a and John C. Matheson IIIaaDivision of Toxicology and Environmental Sciences, Center for Veterinary Medicine, Food and Drug Administration, Washington, DC, USA Available online 13 November 2002. AbstractThe Center of Veterinary Medicine (CVM) of the Food and Drug Administratio n (FDA) is required under the National Environmental Policy Act (NEPA) to include in its decision making, an objective consideration of the potential environmental impacts associated with each contemplated action. As part of the application process for new animal drugs, detailed data must be submitted in order to develop a prediction of the environmental fate and effects of the drug and/or its active metabolites. ivermectin (22,23-dihydroavermectin B1) is a highly active antiparasitic animal drug utilized in a variety of injectable, oral and topical formulations. Residues of this drug may reach the environment through manufacturing and animal wastes and may potentially have effects of terrestrial and aquatic organism. A comprehensive data base has been submitted to the FDA in support of the environmental assessments for ivermectin drug products. Detailed information has been submitted on the physical and chemical properties, introduction, fate and effects of the ivermectins in the environment. These data indicate that ivermectin binds tightly to soil and is subject to photodegradation and biotransformation to less active compounds. In contrast, ivermectin is highly toxic to certain aquatic organisms but would not be expected to partition into the aquatic environment. Much lower toxicity has been demonstrated toward bacteria, fungi, earthworms, plants and birds. CVM evaluated ivermectin products based on the use of pattern of the product, the metabolism pattern in target animal, calculations of potential ivermectin residue concentrations in the environment and data on persistence, soil sorption and acute toxicity in aquatic and terrestrial environments.
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