adam owen Posted July 26, 2011 Report Posted July 26, 2011 can any one tell me anything about thease breed of pigeons thanks
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OLDYELLOW Posted July 26, 2011 Report Posted July 26, 2011 Hagen's are basically Deweerdt x Jan Thelan's unfortunately my link no longer works :Brothers Hagens Achthuizen, "So young and already living legends". The history of Eight Houses in the old archives little known. It appears from the old data that it required as a hamlet in the municipality Ooltgensplaat heard. It is probably founded around the year 1526 when the Bommels Polder Polder Gala and Tea were linked. On the "corner" that would result was the present village of eight houses have emerged. Tradition has it that the name Achthuizen would come from a building that was so divided that it consisted of eight woninkjes each with the same shape. The building would be put down by a farmer for the seasonal workers, from England come in here to work, to bivouac. Many of these seasonal workers Brabant remained in this place live. This explains why the village is largely Catholic and still is. Eight houses since 1966 belongs to the municipality Oostflakkee. Before that Achthuizen the special position it had two mayors. The village was intersected by a dike. One side of the dike belonged to Ooltgensplaat and the other in Den Bommel. Achthuizen therefore has never had its own arms. But despite not having their own weapon and also tell much about the past history is required from the village Achthuizen recent years to such an extent that the mapping from the present is indeed the necessary books will go. The now more familiar than brothers Ad and Rinus Hagens have their long strong play with the pigeons in the remotest corners of the world plenty of respect. Whether you're in the Far East, or entirely on the other side of our nature gap is the name of Guus Hiddink or a Johan Cruyff called, or the name of the brothers Hagens from the previously-known Achthuizen, no, all the doors for you opened. After winning as an e Int.nat. Perpignan, an e Int.nat. Tarbes and another one the e Int.nat. Barcelona dvn. the total of three international victories. Who did it better?, Unfortunately, I do not go too fast. But beyond these evocative victories she took also the fastest of National St. Vincent over the entire contest against 31,586 dvn. in 2001. No, it's definitely not a fairy tale or a dream that I few lines above all set on paper. No, it is the true life story of Ad, Rinus and Sonja Hagens . The Hagens .So what is there not all been written about these brothers. Only the three constituent units International victories were their names all over the world and in appropriate languages ​​appear in the newspapers. However, I try a little bit back your memory a bit to freshen up. For the really good readers and Hagens connoisseurs will probably totally unnecessary, but I try to venture on this piece. The brothers have only been in the last edition of the Barcelona show who or what they are and what they are capable. Ad, 53 years and the fourth in a row of family Hagens . Married to the very friendly and very welcoming Sonya and together the parents of the young smiling and Lucinda. Rinus brother, 49 years, single and the youngest of seven children-headed families counting Hagens . After their appearance as in the second half of sixties at the family home in the Schoolstraat were the necessary first year the sprint and middle distance races played. During this time the brothers had access to an August 1 widowers and 20 youngsters. After moving (1972) of the family Hagens to the then newly built lofts with two uncles were put down. Nowadays the lofts are still in this location just outside the center of the village of eight houses. Ad tells us that he little guy in those days at the old Nobel in January could make the pens clean. Through a former neighbor, who at that time itself is necessary but birds had not actually participated in the flights, the brothers known birds infected with the virus. At that time, she joined the local pigeon club (Pv Blue Dove) where she, today still a member. Once after switching to the faster work, where they are more than deserving to have dominated (including Imperial Champion throughout Goeree Overflakkee) to the heavier, they were also in this part of the famous mark. Despite their relatively short then final transition (1988) will be so in the early nineties when the brothers have been the first several prestigious titles in both the ZLU as the FMP managed to secure. Their game was very strong and with an annual follow-conquered them in the foreseeable future a place in the national and international fondtop. And we know it, "to become a champion is not that difficult, but to stay." A successful base.Their base where the brothers started can and should be, and certainly later be seen as very successful. This was the brothers themselves obviously quite quickly given the very good and good results in that time there were already way as pigeons, which mainly consisted of birds from the Theelen the duo John and Lalieu Tjeu van Doorn in Thorn, Limburg. But was there and youngsters bought from the brothers of the Weerdt from the Limburg Meersen. But the brothers bought at that time some of Hubert from Enschede. These pigeons themselves brought the newcomers at that time to the big top. What contribution this certainly should not be forgotten is that of the famous brothers in Someren-Eind van Doorn . These men were together as a very successful breeding. In the basic description, I do you already have the best plant varieties show together. And saw a "Julio" in light of the known breeding together. This giant has like 3 e and 40 e Nat. St Vincent, 40 e Nat. Dax and a 41 e Nat. Bordeaux yearlings to his credit. But a "Melinda" with like a 35 e Nat. Mont de Marsan are impressive. And what do you think of "Lisa" with like a 9 e Nat. Bordeaux and a 48 e Nat. St. Vincent worth it. But the first real purchases were made ​​at the time the men were still players program. Date as the first purchases include Laieu van Doorn in 1984. The year before, so in 1983 they noticed this combination because in that year of a hard foul loeizware St. Vincent they took. At first these were direct purchases for some super sires. The very famous, "Red Breeder" or to be the NL 1984-180230 pale, like a grandfather "Sarina", "Maxima", "The Breeder 42", "Lucinda", "Bauer 014", "Rivaldo" "Ricardo" etc. etc. are the proverbial weight in gold to be worth. Later, after finally switching to once she knocked in 89 with the brothers of the Weerdt. These birds, both pure and crossed between the brothers to be brought there, where they still stand, namely the top. But here they look to the future.Standing still is going backwards, really nice weather Sun pronunciation of champions in our sport. That this saying on the trio from Achthuizen may apply from the following clear.In 2000, Ad and Rinus because the pigeons still known Gebr. Brugmann purchased from Assendelft, where they place so much success with it. Some examples include: NL00-176407 "Angelo" (direct Gebr. Brugmann) 17th Nat. Barcelona 2,003 d. 3,915 48th Internat. Barcelona 2003 20.204 d. 92nd Nat. St.Vincent 2002 seven thousand three hundred seventy-seven d.124th Nat.Barcelona 2005 d. 7491175th Nat. Mont de Marsan two thousand and two 6,220 d.236th Internat. Barcelona 2 005 25.815 d. NL00-1764076 (right tree ks Gebr. Brugmann) 79th Nat.Barcelona 2005 d. 7491292nd Semi-Nat.Barcelona 2003 d. 3915Four hundred and first Nat.Bordeaux-old in 2002 d. 5384 Also told them the pigeons crossed Brugmann to have their own birds, such as the "Shafira". The father of "Shafira" 070 is the cock of Gebr. Brugmann, (which includes half brother and daughter Sheila Tycha.) The mother of "Shafira" is a daughter of "Carcassonne." And "Carcassonne" is the father of "Sarina". "Shafira" (kleinkindvan "Sarina") NL02-1584714 Nat.Barcelona hens 15th 2005 d. 2300 30th Internat. Barcelona hen two thousand and five 7,023 d. 35th Nat.Barcelona 2005 d. 7491 71st Internat. Barcelona 2005 25.815 d.114th Nat.Bordeaux 2005 d. 9277994th Nat.Perpignan 2005 d. 6300 The founding father "Red Breeder ' (NL84-180230)If we were going to retrieve birds also known in history as a top progenitors were going, then the NL84-180230, or called the "Red Breeder" certainly mean a place of honor in the top ten got. This giant comes directly from the comb. Lalieu-van Doorn from Thorn. The parents of the "Red Breeder" is a son of the "Old Clumpkens" and a granddaughter of the "Great 34". This giant is like the grandfather, among others, "The Breeder 42", "Lucinda", "Sarina", "Bauer 014", "Rivaldo" and "Maxima". "Sarina" an email on 97-98-99 Golden Barcelona pigeon Z. LU 1 e Internat. Barcelona hen 1,999 six thousand four hundred and nineteen d. 3 e Nat. Barcelona 1 999 eight thousand one hundred forty d. 3 e Internat. Barcelona 1999 28.017 d. 39 e Nat. Barcelona 1997 d. 7,047 58 e Nat. Barcelona 1,998 d. 6290 219 e Nat. Perpignan 1,998 5 479 d. 511 e Nat. Perpignan 1997 3.985 d. "Bauer 014" 1 e Internat. Tarbes 1998 5.031 d. "Maxima" 1 e Nat. St.Vincent 2001 31 586 d. 902 e Nat. Bergerac 11.953 d. 2000 (as a yearling)1099 e Nat. Dax 2000 four thousand five hundred seventy-eight d. (a yearling)Maxima is a full sister to the Bauer 014. "Rivaldo" 2nd Nat.Bordeaux S2 1998 10 328 d. 7th Nat.Bordeaux S2 1999 11 622 d. 32nd Nat.Montauban "S2 1998 d. 8113 569th Nat.Dax 1999 d. 5856 "Lucinda" 6th Nat. Barcelona 1994 d. 776723rd International 26,807 d. 4th Internat. Hens d. 5682 "The Breeder 42" is father of "Indurain", "Leontien" and "Lynn" and grandfather of "Britt". " Indurain " 14th Nat. Marseille in 1994 4 601 d. 44th Internat. Marseille 1994 15.669 d. One hundred and first Nat. Perpignan 1997 3.985 d. 217th Nat. Barcelona 1997 d. 7047 292nd Nat. Marseille 1995 three thousand five hundred seventy-one d. Etc.. "Leontien " 74th Nat. Dax ZLU in 2002 five thousand six hundred seventeen d. 544th Internat. Dax 2002 14.507 d. 33rd Internat. Dax hens 2,002 2.076 d. 111th Nat. Barcelona 2,003 d. 3,915 448th Internat. Barcelona 2003 20 204 d. 141st Internat. Barcelona hen 2,003 five thousand three hundred and forty-four d. 133rd Nat.Barcelona 2005 d. 7491 258th Internat.Barcelona 2005 25 815 d. 51st Nat. Barcelona hens 2005 d. 2300 One hundred and first Internat.Barcelona hens 2005 d. 7023 "Lynn" 63rd Nat. Barcelona 2,003 d. 3,915 246th Internat. Barcelona 2003 20.204 d. 80th Internat. Barcelona hen 2,003 five thousand three hundred and forty-four d. 189th Nat. Perpignan 2002 d. 7,083 477th Internat. Perpignan 2002 18.264 d. 100th Internat. Perpignan hens 2002 4.367 d. 319th Nat. Bordeaux jaarl. 2001 4,626 d. 323rd Nat. Perpignan 2,004 d. 7645 471st Nat.Barcelona 2005 d. 7491 522nd Nat.Bordeaux S2 2005 d. 9277 535 e Nat. Perpignan 2,003 five thousand eight hundred ninety d."Britt" 39th Nat. Dax ZLU 2003 d. 9405 65th Nat. Pau 2,002 2 792 d. 158th Nat. Bordeaux jaarl. 2001 4,626 d.217th Internat. Dax 2003 19.420 d. 18th Internat. Dax hens 2003 d. 3938453rd Internat. Pau 2,002 d. 7,867 34th Internat. Pau hens 2002 d. 1260 The matriarch "freckle 274".Now I am the father of the loft above I do not deny to me personally, the matriarch of the loft little more exposure. "freckle 274" comes directly from Gebr. Van de Weerdt from Meerssen. In her pedigree we see, among other birds out of Tossem Warsage ( and of Devriend from nut (. This culture was like mother's mother, Carcassonne "," 47 Good, "" Rise, "Olano," Gianni "and" Britt ". "Rise" 26th Nat. Marseille 1997 4.449 d. 43rd Nat. Marseille 1996 d. 4307 88th Nat. Pau 1998 2.451 d. 91st Nat. Perpignan 1997 3.985 d. 161st Nat. Marseille 1998 5.415 d. 211th Nat. Perpignan 1996 d. 3815 "Olano" 27th Nat. Dax ZLU 1998 d. 1979 62nd Nat. Perpignan 1997 3.985 d. 97th Nat. Pau 1997 1.944 d. 252nd Nat. Pau 1999 2.493 d. 383rd Nat. Pau 1998 2.451 d. "The Great 47" Nat.Bordeaux old 40th- 1992 d. 3003 53rd Nat. Perpignan 1992 6.070 d. 71st Nat. Marseille 1992 5.919 d. 344th Nat.Pau 1993 d. 2488 440th Nat. Marseille 1993 5.534 d "Gianni" 14th Nat.Pau 1998 d. 2451 49th International Pau 1998 d. 7520 268th Nat.Bordeaux-jaarl. 1997 d. 4831 356th Nat.Pau 1999 d. 2493 785th Nat.Perpignan 1999 d. 6857 "Carcassonne" 13th Nat.Carcasonne 1994 d. 1371 49th Nat.Pau 1995 d. 2156 52nd Nat.Bordeaux 1993 d. 2505 89th Nat.Perpignan 1995 d. 4342 177th Nat.Bordeaux 1994 d. 1681 206th Nat.Marseille 1995 d. 3571 242nd Nat.Lourdes 1993 d. 2543 253rd Nat.Perpignan 1994 d. 5024 Carcassonne in 1995 the second Ace ZLU. He also became the father as "Sarina" with its first International Barcelona hens in 1999. "Britt" 39th Nat. Dax ZLU 2003 d. 9405 65th Nat. Pau 2,002 2 792 d. 158th Nat. jaarl Bordeaux. 2001 d. 4626 217th Internat. Dax 2003 19.420 d. 18th Internat. Dax hens 2003 d. 3938 453rd Internat. Pau 2,002 d. 7,867 34th Internat. Pau hens 2,002 1.26 thousand d. Besides that she is mother of the foregoing, among other similarly grandmother, "Sarina", "Lorena," Shafir "and" Father Bauer 014 ". "Lorena" 5th Nat.Dax ZLU 2005 d. 3105 17th Internat. Dax 2005 11.898 d. 3rd Nat. Dax ZLU 2005 hens 691 d. 4th Internat. Dax Hens 2,005 1.930 d. 132nd Nat.Bordeaux 2005 d. 9277 771st Nat.St.Vincent 2004 5.909d. 1078th Nat.Bergerac 2004 12.125d. "Shafira" 35th Nat.Barcelona 2005 7.491d. 71st Internat. Barcelona 2005 25 815 d. Nat.Barcelona hens 15th 2005 d. 2300 30th Internat. Barcelona hen two thousand and five 7,023 d.114th Nat.Bordeaux S2 2005 d. 9277994th Nat.Perpignan 2005 d. 6300 "Father of the" Bauer 014 " (Father of the "Bauer 014 1 e Internat. Tarbes 1998 and father of "Maxima" an e Nat. St.Vincent 2001) 32nd Nat. Dax 1995 4.620 d. 99th Nat. Tarbes 1996 1.541 d.509th Nat.Marseille 1997 d. 4449569th Nat.Perpignan 1997 d. 3985627th Nat.Bordeaux-jaarl. 1994 3.787 d. Performance.After the necessary ads as Fondspiegel Books in looking to have a better personal impression, we simply can not but conclude that we are still known by their track record. Elsewhere in this report, I still like you this list before your eyes. But before you go I entrust these numbers a few years ago I would show you only the services they already there in Achthuizen past year alone as in Barcelona, ​​Dax, Marseille and Perpignan one were obtained. 02/07/2005 Barcelona ZLU (d. 7491) with 14, 11 prizes.Price : from 35 to 79 - 111 - 124 to 133 - 345 - 471-595 - 672-748 - 1615.Barcelona hens ZLU (d. 2300) with 5, 5 prizes.Price: from 15 to 42 - 51 - 155 to 505.International Barcelona (d. 25815) Price: 71 - 154 - 219 to 236 - 258 - 734-1045 - 1338-1532 - 1710-4128Internat. Barcelona-hen (7023 d.) Price: from 30 to 85 - 101 - 344-1224 17/07/2005 Dax LU Z. (d. 3105) with seven, five prizes.Price: 5-105 - 230 - 362 to 655.Dax ZLU hens (691 d) with four, three prizes.Price: 3-36 - 110.Internat. Dax (11,898 d)Price: 17 to 300 - 717 - 1200 to 2205.Internat. Dax-hen (1930 d.)Price: 4 - 53 - 185. 07/23/2005 Marsseille ZLU (d. 3679) with 10, four prizes.Price: 191 - 206 - 801 to 896.Marseille ZLU hens (795 d) with three, two prizes.Price: 37-179.Internat. Marseille (d. 13930)Price: 1141 - 1189 - 2528 - 2769 - 2872 to 3153.Internat. Marseille-hen (2539 d.)Price: from 164 to 385 - 521.06/08/2005 Perpignan ZLU (d. 6300) with 10, four prizes.Price: 188-796 - 832-994.Perpignan ZLU Hens (d. 1580) with 3, 3 prizes.Price: 64 to 218 - 263.International Perpignan (17653 p.)Price: 501 - 1959 - 2041 - 2389 - 3940.International Perpignan Hens (d. 4859)Price: from 162 to 545 - 655. Prizes won in 2005.3 e Nat. Dax - Hens 691 p., 4 E International Dax - Hens d. 1930, 5th Nat.Dax ZLU3.105 birds., 13th Nat. S2 6738 d. Bordeaux, 15th Nat. ZLU Hens Barcelona 2300 d, 17 e International Dax 11,898 b., 29th Nat. Bordeaux S2 d. 6738, 30th Internat. Barcelona - Hens d. 7023, 35th Nat. Barcelona ZLU 7.491 p., 36th Nat.Dax - Hens p. 691, 42nd Nat. ZLU Hens Barcelona d. 2300, 51st Nat. Barcelona ZLU Hens 2300 d. 53 e International Dax - Hens d. 1930, 64th Nat. Perpignan ZLU - Hens d. 1580, d. 2992 ZLU Nat.Narbonne 64th, 71st International Barcelona 25,815 b., 79th Nat. Barcelona ZLU 7.491 d ., 85th Internat. Barcelona - Hens d. 7023 etc. etc. Top results in terms of early prices.1 e Nat. / Int. Perpignan1 e Nat. / Int. Tarbes1 e Int. Barcelona hen1 e Nat. St. Vincent (fastest entire competition)2 e Nat. Bordeaux3 e Nat. Barcelona3 e Nat. St. Vincent3 e Nat. Dax ZLU hens 4 E Int. Dax ZLU hens4 e Nat. Cahors5 e Nat. Cahors5 e Nat. Dax ZLU6 e Nat. Barcelona6 e Nat. St. Vincent7 e Nat. Bordeaux9 e Nat. Montauban9 e Nat. Tarbes9 e Nat. Bordeaux11 e Nat. Tarbes13 e Nat. Carcasonne13 e Nat. Montauban13 e Nat. Bordeaux14 e Nat. Marseille14 e Nat. Pau17 e Semi-Nat. Barcelona18 e Nat. San Sebastian18 e Nat. Dax ZLU19 e Nat. Bergerac19 e Nat. Bordeaux20 e Nat. Bordeaux20 E Nat Dax21 e Nat. Barcelona21 e Nat. Bordeaux22 e Nat. Bergerac24 e Nat. Barcelona25 e Nat. Cahors26th Nat.Marseille 27th Nat.Cahors 27th Nat.Dax 28th Nat.Barcelona 29th Nat.Barcelona 29th Nat. Bordeaux 32nd Nat.Dax 32nd Nat.Dax 32nd Nat.Montauban 35th Nat. Barcelona Z. LU 35th Nat. Marseille 35th Nat.Mont de Marsan 36th-Nat.Bordeaux jaarl 37th Nat.Bergerac 37th Nat.Bergerac 38th Nat.Bergerac 39th Nat.Dax ZLU 39th Nat.Bergerac 39th Nat.Barcelona 40th Nat.St.Vincent 41st-old Nat.Bordeaux 41st Nat.Dax 41st Nat.Dax 42nd Nat.Cahors 43rd-Nat.Bordeaux jaarl 43rd Nat.Marseille 45th Nat.Pau 47th Nat.St.Vincent 48 E Nat.St.Vincent 49th Nat.Bordeaux-old 49th Nat.Pau And, believe me or not, but really, I was speechless and could only tap many rules in terms of top rating. Most beautiful championships in 2005.IFC 4000 (Internat. long distance club), an e General International Champion, an e Ace International / 3 flights, 1 e International Hens, 3 E International 10 nominated, 6 E International 2 nominated, 9 e Super Trophy International and the Dutch, they were like 1 e ZLU Fondspiegel Cat. 6. And within the latter, and the brothers were extremely beautiful championship in recent years include already, in 1995 the first Category 5, Category 1997 1st July, 1st 2000 Category 7, Intermediate from 1993 to 1995 4 E , Intermediate from 1994 to 1996 6 E , Interim 1995 - 1997 1 E And then recently when another class victory can write your name on it, so what else do I still add. Previous highly prestigious championships were won by Ad and Rinus include an e Emperor of the great distance ZLU 1993, an e FBZ General Champion 1993, an e nominated FBZ 1992, etc. Extensive references.That also take other soon the way to the quiet and picturesque village of eight houses were able to find after the extremely fine and persistent play of the brothers will each of us more than obvious. To the extent that they Achthuizen know is below a list of most recent successful lovers. Ludo Verstraeten Really (L)Grandchild of "Sonja" (NL92-1120350) won the prize: 47th Nat. Soustons 10,953 d. 94th Nat. St.Vincent 21,210 d.117th Nat. Dax 19,125 d. Wim de Leeuw BavelGrandchild of "Bauer 014" (NL96-2216014) won the prize: 1st Nat. Bergerac 6924 d. Teun Hood OudenhoornGrandchild of 'Rise' (NL94-1357140) ("Rise" is a brother of Carcassonne, Olano, Gianni, Good 47)Grandson of "Breeder 42" (NL90-2441842), and "Lucinda" (NL91-2131383) won the prize: 2nd Nat. St.Vincent 7377 d. NL89-1926111 x-grandson of NL89-1926274 (including parents of Carcassonne, 47 Good,Gianni, Olano, Rijs) won the prize: 8th Nat. Montauban 5717 d 8th Nat. Montauban 5717 d Desmet St.Pieters-Leeuw (Grandson of "Sarina" (NL95-1877800 an e Internat. Barcelona hens 1999) won the prize: 7th Nat. St.Vincent 10,400 d. Ms Roobol ZwijndrechtGrandson of "Sarina" (NL95-1877800), "Red breeder" (NL84-180230), "Carcassonne" (NL91-2131301) and "Rise" (NL94-1357140) won the prize: 12th Nat. Montauban 8346 d Gebr. Bras DordrechtGrandson of "Indurain" (NL92-1120327) won the prize: 20th Nat. Mont de Marsan 6.220 d. 61st Nat. Bordeaux 5965 d. 64th Nat. St.Vincent d. 6385 70th Nat. St.Vincent 7377 d. Grandson of "Red breeder" (NL84-180230) Is "Brassie" won the prize: 2nd Nat. St.Vincent 8556 d. 20th Nat. Montauban 8113 d 82nd Nat. Perpignan 5479 d. Pigeons out of line "Father Sonja" (NL89-1926289) and Father "Good 54 '(NL84-180239) won price: 21st Nat. Bordeaux 8854 d. 40th Nat. Bordeaux yearlings d. 5279 63rd Nat. Bordeaux yearlings d. 5279 76th Nat. Bordeaux-old d. 3890 Dove out of line "Red breeder" (NL84-180230) x NL88-1765025, "Father Sonja" (NL89-1926289) and Father "Good 54 '(NL84-180239) won the prize: 67th Nat. Perpignan 7645 d. Pigeon NL85-1228405 from the line of the "405" is a son of NL84-180230 (Red breeder) x NL84-180237 (Mother Sonja) won the prize: 13th Nat. Bordeaux 8825 d. Dove line of "Indurain" prize won: 8th Nat. Montauban 7440 d 12th Nat. Bergerac 12.956 d. 17th Nat. Bordeaux 9277 d. Grandson of the "Carcassonne" (father of Sarina) won the prize: 47 e Nat. Perpignan 6300 d. Pigeons out of line "Red breeder" (NL84-180230) x NL88-1765025, "Father" Good 54 '(NL84-180239) won price: 26th Nat. Bergerac 12.125 d. 30th Nat. Bordeaux 7264 d. 31st Nat. Montauban 7440 d 34th Nat. St.Vincent 6385 d. 39th Nat. Bordeaux 7264 d. 40th Nat. Bordeaux 5965 d. 46th Nat. St.Vincent d. 5909 46th Nat. Barcelona hen 2300 d. 62nd Nat. Bergerac 12.956 d. 63rd Nat. St.Vincent d. 7377 64th Nat. St.Vincent 5909 d. 86th Nat. St.Vincent d. 6212 Saarloos and Zn Klaaswaal Grandchild of "Red breeder" (NL84-180230) won the prize: 5th Nat. Carcasonne d. 1371 8th Nat. Pau d. 2488 12th Nat. St.Vincent 10,640 d. 27th Nat. St.Vincent 7793 d. 70th Nat. Marseille d. 5534 Grandchild of NL84-180239 (Good Father 54) won the prize: 27th Nat. St.Vincent 7793 d. Comb. South Beijerland pollNL87-2000211 and grandchildren of NL91-2131319 (Mother 'Rivaldo') won price: 13th Nat. Pau d. 2758 37th Nat. Pau d. 2451 NL90-grandchildren 2,441,051 (Half sister to "Sonja" an e Internat.Perpignan 1996)Grandchildren of NL89-1926289 ("Father Sonja "an e Internat.Perpignan 1996)prize won: 26th Nat. Dax d. 4328 38th Nat. Pau d. 2451 87th Nat. Dax d. 3755 Chr. vd Velden South BeijerlandGrandchild of "Sarina" (NL95-1877800 1 e Internat. Barcelona hens 1999) won the prize: 12 e Nat. Bordeaux 7264 d. Gerard Tuijl Hellouw Children of NL91-2131337 x NL90-2441051 Grandchildren of NL89-1926289 ("Father Sonja "an e Internat.Perpignan 1996) Won price: 1st Nat. Ruffec d. 8380 3rd Nat. Perpignan 8627 d. 7th Nat. Bordeaux 3746 d. 8th Internat. Brive d. 9615 Child of NL87-2000211 (Father of "Julio") won the prize: 3 e Nat. Bergerac 16.952 d. (Same car winner) Grandchildren of NL89-1241054 ("Good 54 ') x NL91-2131319 (Mother' Rivaldo ')NL89-1926289 ("Father Sonja "an e Internat.Perpignan 1996) x NL91-2131383 ("Lucinda")And NL84-180239 (Good Father 54) won price: 16th Nat. Marseille d. 8730 2nd Nat. Marseille hens d. 1476 24th Nat. Marseille d. 5884 6th Nat. Marseille hens d. 1168 43rd Nat. Dax d. 4328 Piet Wagemaker St.PhilipslandGrandchild of "Sonja" (NL92-1120350) won the prize: 3rd Nat. Bordeaux 3191 d. 91st Nat. Pau d. 3571 NL90-2441047-grandchildren of ('Good 47 ") x NL89-1241090 (daughter" Super 61 ")Prize won: 8th Nat. Dax d. 2338 28th Nat. Mont de Marsan 2.853 d. 53rd Nat. St.Vincent 20,296 d. 60th Nat. St.Vincent 2538 d. 61st Nat. St.Vincent 15,966 d. 89th Nat. St.Vincent 2319 ​​d. Comb. Van Kooten & Van Bemmel Lunteren NL89-1926111 x grandchild of NL89-1926274 (including parents of Carcassonne, 47 Good, Gianni, Olano, Rijs) won the prize: 11th Nat. Limoges d. 2354 39th Nat. Limoges d. 2827 Grandson of NL84-NL88-1030718 x 180 239 (parents' Good 54) NL84-180230 ("Red breeder") x NL91-2131319 (Mother 'Rivaldo') Won price: 9th Nat. Barcelona d. 8713 5th Nat. Barcelona hen 6826 d. 11th Internat. Barcelona 26,928 d. Grandson of NL84-NL88-1030718 x 180 239 (parents' Good 54) NL89-1926111 x NL89-1926274 (including parents of Carcassonne, Good 47, Gianni, Olano, Rijs) NL84-180230 ("Red breeder") x-NL91 2131383 ("Lucinda") Won price: 91 e Nat. Dax d. 4328 W. Arbouw VoorschotenPigeon NL90-2441842 from the line ("Breeder 42") and NL88-1764661 ("Super 61") Won price: 1 e Nat. Montauban 8425 d JJ vd Berg EdeDove line of NL84-180239 (Good Father 54) and NL90-2441052 (Half sister "Sonja") Won price: 1st Nat. Bergerac 20.261 d. W. Rijkers DordrechtGrandson of NL84-180230 ("Red breeder") x NL84-180237 (Mother Sonja) won the prize: 33rd Nat. 5737 Barcelona d. A. Houweling Leiden Dove line of NL84-180230 ("Red breeder") x NL84-180237 (Mother Sonja) won the prize: 1st Nat. St.Vincent 8002 d. 20th Nat. Bergerac 14.284 d. 33rd Nat. Bergerac 16.843 d. 69th Nat. Bergerac 13.920 d. A. vd Berg SpijkenisseNL89-1926111 x-grandson of NL89-1926274 (including parents of Carcassonne, 47 Good, Gianni, Olano, Rijs) won the prize: 9th Nat. Mont de Marsan 6.220 d. W. Sir John Barclay CountryDove line of "Good 47 '(NL90-2441047) and" Super 61 "(NL88-1764661)" Red breeder "(NL84-180230) and NL84-180237 (Mother Sonja) won the prize: 1st Nat. Dax 13,501 d. 2nd Nat. Bergerac 3008 d. 36th Nat. Bordeaux 3191 d. 57th Nat. Dax d. 2613 Pigeon NL85-1228405 from the line, NL87-1999583, NL88-1030718 (Good Mother 54) won the prize: 1 e Nat. Bergerac 2881 d. Also fastest in the entire contest d. 11,508 Pelican & Barendrecht ZwijndrechtGrandson of "Sarina" (NL95-1877800), "Red breeder" (NL84-180230), "Carcassonne" (NL91-2131301) and "Rise" (NL94-1357140) won the prize: 3rd Nat. Bordeaux 7264 d. Ronald Geerdink Heemstede2 Grandchildren of "Sarina" (NL95-1877800), grandchildren of "Carcassonne" (NL91-2131301), "Lucinda" (NL91-2131383), and "Father Sonja" (NL89-1926289) won price: 9th Nat. Montauban 9229 d 18th Nat. Montauban 8346 d 39th Nat. St.Vincent 5909 d. 59th Nat. St.Vincent 5909 d. 137th Nat. Bordeaux 8854 d. Comb. Guns TeteringenGrandchild of "Breeder 42" (NL90-2441842) and "Lucinda" (NL91-2131383) won Price: 4 e Nat. Bergerac (Brabant 2000) d. 5756 Comb. Van der Steen, van Rijn LeidenPigeons from the line of "Red breeder" (NL84-180230) - NL88-1765025 and NL84-180237 (Mother Sonja) won Price: 2nd Nat. Montauban 8425 d 2nd Nat. Mont de Marsan 6.220 d. 13th Nat. Bordeaux 7264 d. 17th Nat. Bordeaux 7264 d. 20th Nat. Dax d. 4578 The Most Beautiful and I think the best reference one can get fancier.Mr. Kanayo Japan: A daughter of "Sarina" (1 e International Barcelona hens 1999) won the 1st Prize National Wakkanai Japan 2005 d. 3572 This at a distance of more than 1000 km. Wakkanai in Japan the toughest race of the year, and is compared with Barcelona in the Netherlands. An interview with Ad, Rinus and Sonja.Knowing that I am now making this report a set of "real" visit went great, I was quite curious how their sometimes some things had to mention. With results, top rating, championships, references and more of these things would be very easy for me to make this truly a loft full of newspaper to describe. I myself have limited (well, limited!) To all that beyond what has been described. In the following I will, through various questions to try some of that veil Achthuizen to cheat. Describe your accommodation again?Well, describe the accommodation they have thought when I asked, "that guy is crazy after what happened." Despite this very painful experience of the past, the men Hagens permission anyway, which sounds weird huh?, to lofts view. Their entire racing will be a good 14 meters. Divided into three sections widowers, two for the nesting birds and a cage of 6 meters for the juniors. The front facing the south and east. At this position, attach the brothers because of the sun very much values. Furthermore, the available voorhun breeders for safety across a few other locations. It's just ... .. kl all so that it should, but hey, he know how it works. Reason whatsoever, Ad, Rinus and Sonja would I ask you this way for the trust which you have given me during this well, but also during the other necessary visits I've been like. How many birds have you?In total, we own a couple or 22 to breeders. A good 80 pieces annually and in its old boy racers (including yearlings), we have access to a 100. These can be divided into 40 widowers and 30 pairs nesting birds. When you pair the birds?The widowers are coupled here around mid-March. Of this coupling bring them all to a young one great 14 days. After these 14 days off the hens and cocks bring further raise their families. The nesting birds are also around this time done and put together like the cocks all a youngster. Noteworthy is that the birds nest nothing else really separate. Rinus does give me a flight that they properly be established. Ad still continued the chickpeas are usually around the end of January get their spouse. What is the right position for you?Well, our experience is that the best position for both the cock and the hen a young at one day or 6 / 7 is. How will you continue with the widowers?The yearlings will be provided from the start until 14 days before the first long distance race every week. For the old birds is simply much less important as this, mainly routines already know in advance what's going is.Wel they indicate that they seek these men as in many others a thousand kilometers in the wings . The yearlings are the first weeks in advance to see their hens. The older will only continue as the yearlings at every invliegvlucht at home for 10 to 15 minutes of their partner. On the larger contracts, these brothers do not support pre-show. No, here they are very quiet and packed shows the most proud of two alpha in the person of the ad that older men do know what is going on. And nesting birds than you? Well, here essentially the same line as the weduwmannen. The yearlings and older as much as possible try famous 1000 km. Even self take away?Prior to the races we bring them a time or two away. And here we try to do between flights rather they move better hear and be sure to focus on the nesting birds. These are like the brothers still regularly indicate whether the club or on Saturday afternoon in Steenbergen. How do you prepare for the juniors.The youngsters are here the last two seasons playing in the navluchten with the container of the department. Yet they prefer going forward them to the first five or six flights in the game with the boy playing. The selection of them is quite simple, anything goes, as verifiable and healthy. This rule use by the yearlings we hear, they need to be, regardless of the fresh flight home. What do you say about your method of care? To quiet (?) Season.During this period, which is actually a pretty quiet and can be seen, but the lofts are cleaned twice daily and they also fed below. The feed is also in this period from a large scheme where a further 30% for barley will be done. Furthermore given once daily presented with clean fresh water in this period. If the winter is really going to log around late November, the birds apart done. They continued in this period is limited outside. They definitely try them out once a week still to this period. To the season.Once paired, and knowing that once again a tough season for the door, the birds once daily mid-May to well beyond. From mid May to the pigeons twice a day out. The widowers go in the morning for three quarters and in the evening for a full hour out. These times also apply to the course in terms of nesting birds. Rinus put it quite nicely, "John, from a few weeks before the first Bordeaux, these birds nest twice a day out. At first, given the time they spend outside of mandatory training. The men Hagens make this best work of fanatics which means that in the beginning often with the flag will be passed through the air. What to see, and you act because of the food?The men here use the rule that a flight to be conducted. After a flight widowers receive such a treatment that will be changed and stepped up to and including Super M. The men carry in large measure to the races and to give them the necessary small seeds. The pigeons that are raised (read more) fed to a flight to get it in the bin. With the understanding that they have to eat their meal provided. What are the products with you?From the discussion after this question is what can I actually quite short. Grit stone and red they get all year round provided fresh every day. The data Vitamineral they get in this period once every fourteen days in the season and changed weekly. Furthermore, there is actually no by-products in the loft here in Achthuizen. And now, you guessed it, the secret ... ... ... ...No, just joking all the known stick. What or how you act in view of the medical picture? Here on the lofts in beautiful and quiet Achthuizen the pigeons at their first brood as against the known yellow for seven days. If the first flight to report the brothers prefer to do as little as possible. Well the men that they gave Perpignan after 2004 have decided to look for doctors to change. By longer or more consecutive years using the same drugs they considered the helm once completely overhauled. Now they do it through both necessary visit (3 x pa) as well as telephone advice and Norbert Peeters and Vincent Schroeder. Also good that they gave 14 days before the first flight of the airways is something given. Who does what?I wrote previously provided the necessary reports and combinations that no more captains on a ship could be. Well, rest assured, this is the kite as a whole is not. Care is owned by both Ad and Rinus. Sonja, is the man, no, of course, the woman in the background. Outside the host, has also the task of the entire records on her shoulders. On the men asking for results or other information required to sip their friendly beer bottle standing on table while the hostess said that the word suddenly takes over. Pedigrees, photographs of the search results is nothing to love her and I will therefore all sides with the necessary information. It is a pity that when I ask if I have a photograph of three of them may make Sonya did not follow suit to work . "They have the pigeons, I do not" suddenly I hear her mutter some brief. Everything comes to an end.Looking back to visit the Hagens , I think, "what time does fly again". Again, though I might drop a bit of repetition, yet I want you, as a large and very deserved champions thanks for the very hospitable reception. Hopefully, the loyal reader can learn something from. We are all know that the name of the brothers Hagens no longer be ignored in both the national and international pigeon racing. That's why I felt myself very honored that now the door was open for me to be the reporter on the known threshold steps. Many know, the year 2004 was for the Hagens significantly less than what we were used to them. The weird and craziest stories were necessary therefore to round. Ad and Rinus but what I like to see you again I've got the hands and let it go to the dike, and knowing what kind of results as good as evidence in the 2005 season anyway heavy put on paper, will your future minded. Or we go fly this year, well, it will be a question for us all. At the time of this writing, I have recently been told that Minister Veerman us pigeon fanciers even a ban announced the release to and around the house. Avenue we all as fans hope that this matter behind us quickly and we can once again be in good health are all in the air, gazing at our favorite straws. Ad, Rinus but of course Sonia, now it was cold and dark at the Diek (Dike read in Dutch!) But once, when the sun is high in the sky and we are back to watching, yes, then he or she will again fall suddenly on the cover. And you know, I'm ready!
frank-123 Posted July 26, 2011 Report Posted July 26, 2011 Robert strain in northern ireland has theses birds he was advertising in the bhw a couple of weeks back
cemetary Posted July 26, 2011 Report Posted July 26, 2011 Is that all you can post Mark, Good read for the scratcher,
OLDYELLOW Posted July 26, 2011 Report Posted July 26, 2011 Is that all you can post Mark, Good read for the scratcher, These birds are doing well and I can only imagine that they will be a lot more of these about in next few years lots of reds :emoticon-0137-clapping: :emoticon-0137-clapping: the old link I had had the birds photos , but doesn't seem to exist now
ivory Posted July 26, 2011 Report Posted July 26, 2011 These birds are doing well and I can only imagine that they will be a lot more of these about in next few years lots of reds :emoticon-0137-clapping: :emoticon-0137-clapping: the old link I had had the birds photos , but doesn't seem to exist now Verhaegens (not to be confused with Hagens) were imported into uk by the late Doodles Lambert of Norfolk. A Mr buttigieg of Tilbury had some.
just ask me Posted July 26, 2011 Report Posted July 26, 2011 there is a woman fancier in belguim Patricia that flys quite well there was a vid made about her too if i remember rightly she flys sprint and middle distance i think she had birds from rudi Hendricx (spelling)his birds are in a lot of sprint lofts in belguim not as quite as well known over here also she has a lot of white in her birds too i think think she flys hens as old birds no cocks well my memory not quite what it was
adam owen Posted July 26, 2011 Author Report Posted July 26, 2011 thanks you all finally pin pointed where alot cum from
OLDYELLOW Posted July 26, 2011 Report Posted July 26, 2011 http://www.herbots.be/lcb/articles/article.asp?id=55
Guest norfolk.al Posted July 26, 2011 Report Posted July 26, 2011 MR&MRS OWEN KING&SONS WON THE NRCC,YOUNG BIRD NATIONAL WITH A VERHARGEN
demolition man Posted July 26, 2011 Report Posted July 26, 2011 MR&MRS OWEN KING&SONS WON THE NRCC,YOUNG BIRD NATIONAL WITH A VERHARGEN are they the doodle- lambert ones?
demolition man Posted July 26, 2011 Report Posted July 26, 2011 YES they fly lerwick for fun i believe
Guest lenwadebob Posted July 27, 2011 Report Posted July 27, 2011 MR&MRS OWEN KING&SONS WON THE NRCC,YOUNG BIRD NATIONAL WITH A VERHARGEN Also Doodles brother John who races as Lambert King and Lambert has them. They also fly in the Mile X club in Norwich. The Partnership is made up of John Lambert, Wayne King (son of Owen King) and the late Doodles Lambert. The correct spelling of the strain is Verhagen if you wish to "google" it If memory serves me correct 2 of the Doodles Lambert Verhagens were called "The Bootlegger Cock", and "No Surrender". I am not sure now if Lambert King and Lambert still have any of the pure Verhagens, as I know many were crossed with the late Billy Napper pigeons, and also Rutter Brothers pigeons obtained though M Ward & Sons. You may be interested in this link http://www.pipa.be/en/newsandarticles/reports/klip-verhagen-best-long-distance-racers-netherlands Here is an article about the "Kings" NRCC Dunbar winner North Road Championship Club Dunbar young bird national by George Wheatman Norwich fanciers dominated the North Road Championship Club's young bird national from Dunbar on Saturday when winners were the highly successful partnership of Mr and Mrs Owen King and sons, with former national winners Gordon Cockaday and Reg Piggin in second and third positions.It was fitting that members from this fair city did so well because they supported the race in style by sending 600 of the 2, 300 entry. Their reward was a strong west wind that probably kept the birds out to sea for a straight run home.Just a mention of these names is a reminder of how tough competition is in Norwich, but the Kings have been the aces in the pack for a number of seasons now but never quite on such incredible form as they have shown this summer, setting new records with their winning exploits. They have named their winning pigeon "About Time" because they thought it was about time they took the top honours in a NRCC race, having now been first at their clock station in four of this season's six races. The bird making the vital breakthrough is a blue Verhagen cock bird racing natural on the darkness system, having been reared in January.Bloodlines stem from the late, famous "Doodles" Lambert. Leroy, spokesman for the family on this occasion, said that they bought some choice pigeons from the bereavement sale that he organised for his uncle. Another purchaser at the sale was that London ace George Chalkley and it was a gift pigeon from him that was one half of the parents, being paired to a "Doodles" Lambert cock bird.A third generation pigeon fancier, and well known for his convoying duties, Leroy, brother Joe, Dad Owen and Mum Ulanda, were rewarded by this win for the commitment they have shown to the sport.It was particularly a boost for Owen who is making a good recovery from a triple by-pass heart operation earlier this year.The winning pigeon, said Leroy, had won nothing previously but had always been among the front runners in his previous six races.The King pigeons usually have a couple of 15-mile training tosses each week as well as exercising around home for an hour each morning and evening. All members of the family take an active role in the partnership.Dunbar is a distance of 278 miles to their loft and they had 19 of the 30 they sent home on the day, timing the winner at 12-26pm.They sensed it was a good pigeon because there was quite a long delay before the next timing. They had been expecting, and hoping for, a timing at about 12-40pm."I am sure that they came over the sea, and never went inland," said Leroy.The winner will be back on the road next season.Leroy said it was lovely weather in Norwich on Saturday. The wind was due west but not as strong as it had been earlier in the week."We have done well for a number of seasons now, but nothing quite like this season. The pigeons have been in excellent form and won lots of first prizes in our two clubs."We have done well in NRCC races but, until this time, have just missed out on the first place. That is why we have called the pigeon About Time. We thought it was about time we made the breakthrough in the NRCC."The Kings started with 93 youngsters to race in their two clubs and have finished with 73.In addition to the first three places being occupied by Norwich fanciers, three more of their colleagues were in the first 20, and another three Norfolk fanciers were also among the frontrunners.The Friday night prediction by secretary Steve Spinks was that the race would be won in Norwich, because of the predicted wind direction, and he won himself a £10 bet on this from his Peterborough club colleague Dickie Bird who was convinced that the Louth fanciers would have the upperhand.As ever, they were prominent in the provisional result, in 16th, 17th and 18th places, but the first Lincolnshire loft was that of husband and wife team, Kevin and Barbara Smith, past winners of this race, of Chapel St Leonards, who have been in excellent form with their young birds this season.Secretary Steve Spinks said the race proved to be a good one to end a season of racing with the NRCC that has produced winners, and superb performances, from all over the membership area this summer. Some times the races have not been easy, and delicate timing has been necessary over liberations, but always the quality of fanciers has been up to the task.Again we have top-class fanciers, steeped in pigeon racing tradition, in peak form, who have triumphed in excellent style.It is not often fanciers win NRCC races on sheer luck. Ability is the key factor, and already Mr and Mrs King and Sons had proved they had the quality pigeons and right management. And Saturday proved it was About Time for their big-race breakthrough.
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