Walter swanston Posted July 21, 2011 Report Posted July 21, 2011 The situation around Moffat is that I am trying to train young birds at the same time as three pairs of Peregrine Falcons are actively training their progeny to kill pigeons.It is a complete nightmare and one wonders at ones sanity in continuing in the pigeon game, it cannot go on forever like this
cemetary Posted July 21, 2011 Report Posted July 21, 2011 The situation around Moffat is that I am trying to train young birds at the same time as three pairs of Peregrine Falcons are actively training their progeny to kill pigeons.It is a complete nightmare and one wonders at ones sanity in continuing in the pigeon game, it cannot go on forever like this Thats the right time to take a couple of decoys with you, let them go before you liberate the ybs,
bewted Posted July 21, 2011 Report Posted July 21, 2011 there are enough tips on here for pigeon fanciers to help themselves against predators,,,,,,,,,but,,,,,,,i dont mean to upset anyone here or get into any arguements on it,,,,,,,but,,,,pigeon fanciers are there own worse enemy !
cemetary Posted July 21, 2011 Report Posted July 21, 2011 there are enough tips on here for pigeon fanciers to help themselves against predators,,,,,,,,,but,,,,,,,i dont mean to upset anyone here or get into any arguements on it,,,,,,,but,,,,pigeon fanciers are there own worse enemy ! I agree with your comments on the above, but you dont fly pigeons, or you havent experienced whats happening to some owe the guys who are training i take it then.
bewted Posted July 21, 2011 Report Posted July 21, 2011 I agree with your comments on the above, but you dont fly pigeons, or you havent experienced whats happening to some owe the guys who are training i take it then. wether i fly pigeons or not dont make any differance,,,,,,all i am saying is that theres enough tips to help against predators on this site and thats all i was saying,,,,,,nothing less or nothing more apart from fanciers are there own worse enemy,,,,,,,,,,if all fanciers stick together and and tried the tips and ideas on this site or said private in pms,,,,,,then it would slowly make a differance ! you know as well as me,,,,,pigeon fanciers will never stick together !!!!!
cemetary Posted July 21, 2011 Report Posted July 21, 2011 wether i fly pigeons or not dont make any differance,,,,,,all i am saying is that theres enough tips to help against predators on this site and thats all i was saying,,,,,,nothing less or nothing more apart from fanciers are there own worse enemy,,,,,,,,,,if all fanciers stick together and and tried the tips and ideas on this site or said private in pms,,,,,,then it would slowly make a differance ! you know as well as me,,,,,pigeon fanciers will never stick together !!!!! Of course it makes a difference if you fly pigeons, because if you did, you would feel how the guys are feeling just now with the losses with the peregrines wouldnt you.
bewted Posted July 21, 2011 Report Posted July 21, 2011 Of course it makes a difference if you fly pigeons, because if you did, you would feel how the guys are feeling just now with the losses with the peregrines wouldnt you. not going to argue on wether i fly pigeons or not,,,,,,,,,,all i was saying,,,,,,,use the tips and things on this site to help against the predator how i feel or other guys feel is a differant story and not one i am getting into !
Walter swanston Posted July 21, 2011 Author Report Posted July 21, 2011 not going to argue on wether i fly pigeons or not,,,,,,,,,,all i was saying,,,,,,,use the tips and things on this site to help against the predator how i feel or other guys feel is a differant story and not one i am getting into ! All I want to do is fly racing pigeons and as far as possible stay within the law where the peregrine problem is concerned and it does not seem to me to be an outrageous ambition and I am certainly not my own worst enemy and any fancier on this site will confirm how soul destroying it can be to spend months rearing and cosseting lovely young racing pigeons to see them killed.
cemetary Posted July 21, 2011 Report Posted July 21, 2011 there are enough tips on here for pigeon fanciers to help themselves against predators,,,,,,,,,but,,,,,,,i dont mean to upset anyone here or get into any arguements on it,,,,,,,but,,,,pigeon fanciers are there own worse enemy ! Bewted, Am not arguing with anyone either, but looks like your trying to get someones back up with your above statement mate, JMO, the pigeon guys no whats going on,
bewted Posted July 21, 2011 Report Posted July 21, 2011 who ever reads this and not picking on any individual,,,,,,,,,,READ THE TIPS AND THINGS ON HERE TO HELP AGAINST PREDATORS SUCH AS ANTI MATING JACKETS ETC ! thats my last word and not saying anything else or will start to get twisted in what i was trying to say !
bewted Posted July 21, 2011 Report Posted July 21, 2011 Bewted, Am not arguing with anyone either, but looks like your trying to get someones back up with your above statement mate, JMO, the pigeon guys no whats going on, not trying to get anyones back up at all,,,,,,,,,,,,,quite the opposite,,,,,,,read the tips about sorting predators to help pigeon fanciers,,,,,,,,!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
cemetary Posted July 21, 2011 Report Posted July 21, 2011 who ever reads this and not picking on any individual,,,,,,,,,,READ THE TIPS AND THINGS ON HERE TO HELP AGAINST PREDATORS SUCH AS ANTI MATING JACKETS ETC ! thats my last word and not saying anything else or will start to get twisted in what i was trying to say ! Bewted, you dont need to SHOUT at me mate, have a cup owe Brew,
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Guest IB Posted July 21, 2011 Report Posted July 21, 2011 All I want to do is fly racing pigeons and as far as possible stay within the law where the peregrine problem is concerned and it does not seem to me to be an outrageous ambition and I am certainly not my own worst enemy and any fancier on this site will confirm how soul destroying it can be to spend months rearing and cosseting lovely young racing pigeons to see them killed. Walter, your post reminded me of a bit of sound advice (IMO) hidden deep with some RSPB bumff that appeared in BHW a few years ago. Basically we were told to alter our seasons and stop feeding predators. The bits I remember are : (1) We rear and have our green YBs out at the same time as Sparrowhawk & Peregrine hens are hunting to build themselves up before going to nest. If we bred later there wouldn't be the same food supply, so many nests would fail to fledge anything. (2) We race & train when whole 'families' are out hunting, or training to hunt. Our racing season needs to be pushed forward to avoid those periods. We were told how to reduce numbers AND remain within the Law. The weather is changing so breeding & racing a bit later in the year might be no bad thing. I think that's maybe what bewted is getting at, we perhaps choose to ignore good advice because it comes from the 'enemy'.
Guest Tooshy Boy Posted July 21, 2011 Report Posted July 21, 2011 The situation around Moffat is that I am trying to train young birds at the same time as three pairs of Peregrine Falcons are actively training their progeny to kill pigeons.It is a complete nightmare and one wonders at ones sanity in continuing in the pigeon game, it cannot go on forever like thisTAKE SOME FIREWORKS WHEN YOU GO TRAINING .TWO OR THREE ROCKETS SHOULD DO THE TRICK.///
Delboy Posted July 21, 2011 Report Posted July 21, 2011 there are enough tips on here for pigeon fanciers to help themselves against predators,,,,,,,,,but,,,,,,,i dont mean to upset anyone here or get into any arguements on it,,,,,,,but,,,,pigeon fanciers are there own worse enemy ! I agree with you m8, pigeon fanciers are there own worst enemy.We never stick together or solve things as a union, its always left to individuals to do everybodys dirty work for them.This goes for every part of the pigeon sport from running clubs to nationals and now dealing with bop, there are always the majority who sit back and do f...all. Hats off to the workers in our sport
Guest Gareth Rankin Posted July 21, 2011 Report Posted July 21, 2011 I agree with you m8, pigeon fanciers are there own worst enemy.We never stick together or solve things as a union, its always left to individuals to do everybodys dirty work for them.This goes for every part of the pigeon sport from running clubs to nationals and now dealing with bop, there are always the majority who sit back and do f...all. Hats off to the workers in our sport Well summed up Delboy, will make up a document later which can be printed of for pigeonbasic members to take to their club and get them to sign up for latebred training, no half mesures gentlemen, every club member should be participating at the end of this season, feel that strong about this that if they don't do their bit for the future of the sport they should then by flung out if they don't play ball. I'm just turned 40 and I dread to think how many members I will be competing against in five years time.
Delboy Posted July 21, 2011 Report Posted July 21, 2011 The situation around Moffat is that I am trying to train young birds at the same time as three pairs of Peregrine Falcons are actively training their progeny to kill pigeons.It is a complete nightmare and one wonders at ones sanity in continuing in the pigeon game, it cannot go on forever like this deal with it Walter or are you waiting on other people doing it for you??
Guest Tooshy Boy Posted July 21, 2011 Report Posted July 21, 2011 IF YOU LOVE THE SPORT DOO THEM INNNNNNNNNNN.
Walter swanston Posted July 21, 2011 Author Report Posted July 21, 2011 Delboy, my post was put up because it is sometimes disheartening to see all your work go down the swannee,be assured that so far in a long life I have never depended on anyone else for anything
sammy Posted July 21, 2011 Report Posted July 21, 2011 Well summed up Delboy, will make up a document later which can be printed of for pigeonbasic members to take to their club and get them to sign up for latebred training, no half mesures gentlemen, every club member should be participating at the end of this season, feel that strong about this that if they don't do their bit for the future of the sport they should then by flung out if they don't play ball. I'm just turned 40 and I dread to think how many members I will be competing against in five years time. hope this takes aff then gareth and also think wee as a fancy should start to change our breeding times ,well think this should be made compulsary for this sport to survive i know this will get up some peoples noses but we need to STICK together on this as early breeding only makes FAT sparrowhawks
Delboy Posted July 21, 2011 Report Posted July 21, 2011 Delboy, my post was put up because it is sometimes disheartening to see all your work go down the swannee,be assured that so far in a long life I have never depended on anyone else for anything Theres the understatement of the year.
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