Tony C Posted August 6, 2011 Report Posted August 6, 2011 One would think if it affected a racing pigeons ability to home it would also affect migratory birds on their journeys. Have never come across anything to suggest this and am sure if the K Index had any influence on birds the boffins out there would've made us aware of it.
just ask me Posted August 7, 2011 Report Posted August 7, 2011 One would think if it affected a racing pigeons ability to home it would also affect migratory birds on their journeys. Have never come across anything to suggest this and am sure if the K Index had any influence on birds the boffins out there would've made us aware of it. good point tony most the time birds end up in odd places is due to storm etc
Guest IB Posted August 8, 2011 Report Posted August 8, 2011 very high this week I think there are a lot of things unclear about the K Index, and one of them is that it would be unusual for there to be geomagnetic activity lasting a full week. According to the British Geological Survey, while geomagnetic activity can occur at any time, over Britain at least it usually occurs during the night-time hours, 2100-0200 or 2200-0300 kind of thing - when the pigeons are usually safely tucked up in bed. Last week was no different, and a single geomagnetic storm occurred between 1800 Friday 5th August and 0600 Saturday 6th August. The readings during this storm period for Hartland (North Devon), Eskdalemuir (Scottish Borders) and Lerwick (Shetland Islands) Observatories (which together give the local conditions for Britain & Ireland) were:- Hartland: 1800–Midnight, 5th Aug =6; Midnight–0300, (6th) =5; 0300-0600 (6th) =4. Eskdalemuir: 1800-Midnight 5th Aug =6; Midnight–0300 (6th) =5; 0300-0600 (6th) =4. Lerwick: 1800-2100 5th Aug =5; 2100-Midnight (5th) =8; Midnight–0300 (6th) =8; 0300-0600 (6th) =4. Eskadalemuir and Hartland Observatories also recorded a K Index =4 between 1200 & 1800 on Saturday 6th, which could have affected racing in England & Ireland. However, the weather forecast for Saturday was not good, many Organisations cancelled in advance, while here in Scotland those that did race went for early liberations to get the birds home before the rain arrived. 'Reproduced with the permission of the British Geological Survey ©NERC. All rights Reserved' http://www.geomag.bgs.ac.uk/data_service/data/magnetic_indices/k_indices.html
Guest KING BILLY Posted August 8, 2011 Report Posted August 8, 2011 I know where you're coming from when you say fanciers would lynch you for holding over, Damned if you do Damned if you don't situation. What fanciers really need to do is TRUST the race controllers to do the best job that they can and accept the reasons given for decisions made. Decisions that are made for the good of the convoy NOT the fanciers. Its a ridiculous state of affairs that a man gets Voted into a Job that NO ONE ELSE WANTS, then gets slated from the self same men who do not have the courage to take the job themselves. As usual the driving force behind bad races is Fanciers themselves jmo!NO ONE ELSE WANTS RUBISH i was at the agm along with you and some one got hoodwinked out of the job it was ment to be a joint fenture but when it came round for the vots the man whent back on his word
just ask me Posted August 9, 2011 Report Posted August 9, 2011 looks like most over the weekend had a good race and it was high
OLDYELLOW Posted August 9, 2011 Report Posted August 9, 2011 looks like most over the weekend had a good race and it was high aye and the townies go down the valley each day to go find the cut crops and return back to there roosts each day , I think when folk get bad races rather than blame poor birds they look to point the finger at other possibly's rather than them selves , every time theres a bad race there's always birds make it through
Guest TAMMY_1 Posted August 9, 2011 Report Posted August 9, 2011 I think there are a lot of things unclear about the K Index, and one of them is that it would be unusual for there to be geomagnetic activity lasting a full week. According to the British Geological Survey, while geomagnetic activity can occur at any time, over Britain at least it usually occurs during the night-time hours, 2100-0200 or 2200-0300 kind of thing - when the pigeons are usually safely tucked up in bed. Last week was no different, and a single geomagnetic storm occurred between 1800 Friday 5th August and 0600 Saturday 6th August. The readings during this storm period for Hartland (North Devon), Eskdalemuir (Scottish Borders) and Lerwick (Shetland Islands) Observatories (which together give the local conditions for Britain & Ireland) were:- Hartland: 1800–Midnight, 5th Aug =6; Midnight–0300, (6th) =5; 0300-0600 (6th) =4. Eskdalemuir: 1800-Midnight 5th Aug =6; Midnight–0300 (6th) =5; 0300-0600 (6th) =4. Lerwick: 1800-2100 5th Aug =5; 2100-Midnight (5th) =8; Midnight–0300 (6th) =8; 0300-0600 (6th) =4. Eskadalemuir and Hartland Observatories also recorded a K Index =4 between 1200 & 1800 on Saturday 6th, which could have affected racing in England & Ireland. However, the weather forecast for Saturday was not good, many Organisations cancelled in advance, while here in Scotland those that did race went for early liberations to get the birds home before the rain arrived. 'Reproduced with the permission of the British Geological Survey ©NERC. All rights Reserved' http://www.geomag.bgs.ac.uk/data_service/data/magnetic_indices/k_indices.html have to agree with a lot you say Ian and read what was in the BHW, good races happened when it was high and bad races occurred when it was low,my opinion is that the k index has nowt to do with it and untill somebody can prove definately to the contrary then that will remain my opinion.
just ask me Posted August 10, 2011 Report Posted August 10, 2011 have to agree with a lot you say Ian and read what was in the BHW, good races happened when it was high and bad races occurred when it was low,my opinion is that the k index has nowt to do with it and untill somebody can prove definately to the contrary then that will remain my opinion. im the same but i have not really looked into it but do feel other factors such as hawks is our biggest problem
Tony C Posted August 11, 2011 Report Posted August 11, 2011 Supposedly the K Index was high this morning. I trained my youngsters from 45 mile and all home in good time even though they had to come through the last 20 mile of rain. Sorry but I cant take this K Index lark seriously.
OLDYELLOW Posted August 11, 2011 Report Posted August 11, 2011 Supposedly the K Index was high this morning. I trained my youngsters from 45 mile and all home in good time even though they had to come through the last 20 mile of rain. Sorry but I cant take this K Index lark seriously. your supposed to eat it fer two meals a day and loose a inch a month
OLDYELLOW Posted August 11, 2011 Report Posted August 11, 2011 An INCH!!!!!!!! where from? pass but I'm not risking it
Tony C Posted August 11, 2011 Report Posted August 11, 2011 pass but I'm not risking it Pass me the sugar.............. I'm not risking it either
Guest IB Posted August 12, 2011 Report Posted August 12, 2011 Supposedly the K Index was high this morning. I trained my youngsters from 45 mile and all home in good time even though they had to come through the last 20 mile of rain. Sorry but I cant take this K Index lark seriously. I don't know where you got your information from, but according to British Geological Survey's Hartland Observatory, yesterday's readings were very low all day? 11-08-2011 - 1 1 1 0 0 1 2 1 Well done though on getting your birds to come through that kind of weather.
Tony C Posted August 12, 2011 Report Posted August 12, 2011 I don't know where you got your information from, but according to British Geological Survey's Hartland Observatory, yesterday's readings were very low all day? 11-08-2011 - 1 1 1 0 0 1 2 1 Well done though on getting your birds to come through that kind of weather. Bilco's post on Pigeon-Chat BAD "K" INDEX THURSDAY MORNING.by bilco » Wed Aug 10, 2011 1:51 pm BAD "K" INDEX THURSDAY MORNING. K6
Guest IB Posted August 12, 2011 Report Posted August 12, 2011 Bilco's post on Pigeon-Chat BAD "K" INDEX THURSDAY MORNING.by bilco » Wed Aug 10, 2011 1:51 pm BAD "K" INDEX THURSDAY MORNING. K6 I think that would be a forecast? Much same as our weather forecasts, tell us one thing and we get another.
frank-123 Posted August 12, 2011 Report Posted August 12, 2011 I think that would be a forecast? Much same as our weather forecasts, tell us one thing and we get another. why are you mocking someone who is just giving some information just because you don't believe in the k index?
Tony C Posted August 12, 2011 Report Posted August 12, 2011 I think that would be a forecast? Much same as our weather forecasts, tell us one thing and we get another. If the forecast for the K Index cant be accurate then there's absolutely no point in taking heed of warnings. Be it good, bad or indifferent I'll carry on taking my chances.
Guest IB Posted August 12, 2011 Report Posted August 12, 2011 why are you mocking someone who is just giving some information just because you don't believe in the k index? I think you are being unfair, Frank. I didn't mock anyone, I believe I gave a reasonable explanation of the difference in the two reports; one was a forecast of something happening at a future date, and the other was a reading of what actually happened on the day. Differences can happen - as in the weather forecast example that I gave. Whether I believe in the k index or not had no bearing on my post. Tony was led to believe the K Index was high and his judgement was based on that; but it was low, so he had a right to know that - and being low it would have had no affect on his trainer.
Guest TAMMY_1 Posted August 12, 2011 Report Posted August 12, 2011 If the forecast for the K Index cant be accurate then there's absolutely no point in taking heed of warnings. Be it good, bad or indifferent I'll carry on taking my chances. agree with you Tony,like posted before untill somebody can prove 100% that k index is accurate then WE shall send ours based on weather forecast as we see it
OLDYELLOW Posted August 17, 2011 Report Posted August 17, 2011 how is it for this weekend sticking to muesli this week :emoticon-0136-giggle: :emoticon-0136-giggle:
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