Change To Pigeon Racing

[Walter swanston]

Diesel is going through the roof, pigeon corn is more expensive,medication is dearer than ever,fanciers are getting older and the climate is changing.The pigeon fancy in Scotland has to be aware of these factors and thinking fanciers must know that change is going to be forced on us if we do not do it for ourselves.

 

On a Friday night at the height of the season perhaps six or seven half empty transporters pass through Gretna heading for say the English Midlands.Would we not be better to co-operate with each other and send say three full transporters?

 

There might be too many small Pigeon clubs all fiercely independent and seriously intolerant of any change.Insults and feuds of 30 years ago are remembered as if it was yesterday.

 

Fanciers chop and change leaving one organisation and joining with another for the sake of some imagined advantage.

 

Race programmes are considered to be inviolate and graven in stone despite the obvious problems with climate change and financial pressures.Flexibilty is a dirty word.

 

There are may problems needing to be addressed but they are not insurmountable.

 

Finally whu is the SHU not giving us alead on this

[ALF]

GOOD POST WALTER

[dal2]

Diesel is going through the roof, pigeon corn is more expensive,medication is dearer than ever,fanciers are getting older and the climate is changing.The pigeon fancy in Scotland has to be aware of these factors and thinking fanciers must know that change is going to be forced on us if we do not do it for ourselves.

 

On a Friday night at the height of the season perhaps six or seven half empty transporters pass through Gretna heading for say the English Midlands.Would we not be better to co-operate with each other and send say three full transporters?

 

There might be too many small Pigeon clubs all fiercely independent and seriously intolerant of any change.Insults and feuds of 30 years ago are remembered as if it was yesterday.

 

Fanciers chop and change leaving one organisation and joining with another for the sake of some imagined advantage.

Race programmes are considered to be inviolate and graven in stone despite the obvious problems with climate change and financial pressures.Flexibilty is a dirty word.

 

There are may problems needing to be addressed but they are not insurmountable.

 

Finally whu is the SHU not giving us alead on this

Yes very true Walter, but the only transporter coming down thru gretna would be the midland fed and they race west opposed to our east?. We cant hitch a ride wae Lanarkshire for the first few weeks as they obviously have quite a few races until our race points meet(If they ever do). Dont suppose they would even want us there and the drag on our doos up the east might be a factor?

Change must come and probably in our two clubs first and stickin heed in sans is no an option for us younger fanciers who will be left wae nowt but a transporter for next to no birds!!!!!!

The nationals are split which is bad enuff but when feds start splittin doon the middle its the start of the end IMO.

[victorious]

Diesel is going through the roof, pigeon corn is more expensive,medication is dearer than ever,fanciers are getting older and the climate is changing.The pigeon fancy in Scotland has to be aware of these factors and thinking fanciers must know that change is going to be forced on us if we do not do it for ourselves.

 

On a Friday night at the height of the season perhaps six or seven half empty transporters pass through Gretna heading for say the English Midlands.Would we not be better to co-operate with each other and send say three full transporters?

 

There might be too many small Pigeon clubs all fiercely independent and seriously intolerant of any change.Insults and feuds of 30 years ago are remembered as if it was yesterday.

 

Fanciers chop and change leaving one organisation and joining with another for the sake of some imagined advantage.

 

Race programmes are considered to be inviolate and graven in stone despite the obvious problems with climate change and financial pressures.Flexibilty is a dirty word.

 

There are may problems needing to be addressed but they are not insurmountable.

 

Finally whu is the SHU not giving us alead on this

[victorious]

well said walter but beleieve me no question about it what uu have said is happening here in norhern ireland and has been a while half empty transporters i mean and dead wood jumping from club 2 club to try and get an easy win .

[mushroom]

Walter,Correct me if I am wrong but did our fed not refuse an application from Carlisle fanciers to be transported along with us for the 2011 season. Tom Linden.

[dal2]

Walter,Correct me if I am wrong but did our fed not refuse an application from Carlisle fanciers to be transported along with us for the 2011 season. Tom Linden.

Hoddom dont have enuff basket space for the first two races so I take it they would want to come after that?

[mushroom]

As far as I am aware they wanted to join up around the 100 mile stage, Appleton or the equivalent,as the fanciers I have spoken to understood there would be very little chance of space prior to this.

[Walter swanston]

Hoddom dont have enuff basket space for the first two races so I take it they would want to come after that?

[OLDYELLOW]

been saying this fer ages , feds need to come together , why a can't a central route be adopted ???? , and the more feds that worked together the better as then could offer cheaper transportation after all we all pay fer the empty space

[Walter swanston]

Sure what happened was that no one repeat no one from any club was prepared to give up baskets or transporter spaces to accomadate Carlisle, this at a time when our transporter goes down the road half empty and at a time when at leat one other Federation in Scotland is advertising in the Homing World for clubs or Feds to go with them.

[Walter swanston]

I`ll say again in Scotland we badly need some leadership from the SHU which we are not getting but change might be comeing ( I hope).The whole scene needs to be taken by the scruff of the neck and unpopular decisions faced up to.There are guys out there with lots and lots of experience in this game who refuse to become involved in pigeon politics but have no problem in sniping from the sidelines I am sorry if I sound a bit disillusioned but as a not too successful fancier I really really like keeping racing pigeons and I surely care about the future of the sport.

[mushroom]

Walter I hope I have not given you the impression I was having a go at you. I did not have all the facts regarding the clubs not wanting to share their baskets, Thankyou for clarifying that. I for one agree with you entirely and changes must be made regardless of personal differences.I know you work tirelessly for this fed and it is appreciated.

[tiger]

i am quiet sure av fed could help out now you,s are on the east side ?

[dal2]

Sure what happened was that no one repeat no one from any club was prepared to give up baskets or transporter spaces to accomadate Carlisle, this at a time when our transporter goes down the road half empty and at a time when at leat one other Federation in Scotland is advertising in the Homing World for clubs or Feds to go with them.

There is no way that Hoddom could give basket space for the first two Walter as we already have a limit!

But for the rest of the season then it is pos! How would you know how muchbasket space was availbale for Carlisle when it left Gretna? Would the Carlisle members be happy to have a limit? Would they be happy to turn birds away? I know that the figures on the transporter dont add up but members of eah club dont want to go on opposite side of transporter? Would the Carlisle lads want to search round the transporter for spaces?

I like the idea of full transporters but central marking would be the only solution and WE know how hard that is!!!

[Walter swanston]

You are abswolutely right Sreven the only way forward that I can see is Central marking.Springfield and Dumfries but that would mean a major change in attitude, and as I have been saying throughout this discussion serious alterations in pigeon racing have got to come if we are gonna survive.

[dal2]

You are abswolutely right Sreven the only way forward that I can see is Central marking.Springfield and Dumfries but that would mean a major change in attitude, and as I have been saying throughout this discussion serious alterations in pigeon racing have got to come if we are gonna survive.

The Premier club(and I am probs speekin out of turn here) is an elitist club that serves no purpose to us Fed promoters! We have a big prob here with the east west situ that a lot of members can opt out of with their priveledged membership of this club. This is a destructive power within the solway fed that has been brought to the surface by an unusaual clubbing together by the clubs in the west! I have no probs with flyin east but worry about the fanciers that are allowed to fly with this club splittin the fed with lower birdage surely a certainty!

I will surely be shot down by premier members lookin in on here but feel that WE must speak up now or face the conciquences?

I should(as you will rightly point out)get up and say this at some AGM but never havin attended one in 30 odd years seems out of place!!!!!!!!!!!

[Walter swanston]

Well Steven forward thinking and innovative fanciers are sorely needed in the management of our Federation

[yeboah]

The Premier club(and I am probs speekin out of turn here) is an elitist club that serves no purpose to us Fed promoters! We have a big prob here with the east west situ that a lot of members can opt out of with their priveledged membership of this club. This is a destructive power within the solway fed that has been brought to the surface by an unusaual clubbing together by the clubs in the west! I have no probs with flyin east but worry about the fanciers that are allowed to fly with this club splittin the fed with lower birdage surely a certainty!

I will surely be shot down by premier members lookin in on here but feel that WE must speak up now or face the conciquences?

I should(as you will rightly point out)get up and say this at some AGM but never havin attended one in 30 odd years seems out of place!!!!!!!!!!!

Good post steven ,

[Guest paulrstokes]

I agree for example your SHU National is from Leicester.

 

The same weekend Leicester Federation had their championship from Berwick.

 

You Basket friday for a saturday race, your transporter waits and we basket saturday lunch for a sunday race, one transporter one convoyer one driver, not two of each passing each other on the way home.

 

A bit of planning and it would be easy.

[THE FIFER]

[OLDYELLOW]

I agree for example your SHU National is from Leicester.

 

The same weekend Leicester Federation had their championship from Berwick.

 

You Basket friday for a saturday race, your transporter waits and we basket saturday lunch for a sunday race, one transporter one convoyer one driver, not two of each passing each other on the way home.

 

A bit of planning and it would be easy.

sounds good but in reality wouldn't work , the reasons would be hold overs and weather

[airdrie2]

back to going by rail

[yeboah]

back to going by rail

No enough stations still open noo tae liberate from

[airdrie2]

could always change racepoints to suit