chrisbonnie Posted April 20, 2009 Report Posted April 20, 2009 my dad is building his first loft in 30 years, just wondering, is it of any benefit to paint the inside of the loft, just to brighten it up? he`s putting a small window in the roof, would that be enough? cheers
pjc Posted April 20, 2009 Report Posted April 20, 2009 there is no benefit from painting it but if its to dark in there then thinkabout windows and ventilation in the front etc rather than the roof which is then likely to leak.
Guest shadow Posted April 20, 2009 Report Posted April 20, 2009 always painted mine light green more for my benifit than the birds :)
just ask me Posted April 20, 2009 Report Posted April 20, 2009 just dond use gloss that it anything other than that is personall really down to taste im sure a quick serach here and the net will gice u loads of ideas
chrisbonnie Posted April 21, 2009 Author Report Posted April 21, 2009 cheers lads, i got the shed assembled today, and cut a window out in the roof, i heated on some proper felt, not that mickey mouse stuff they give you, and everything is seeled 100% besides the trap thats going to go up, should i put another window in the side? i plan on making an internal door for the loft, as well as the door thats on the shed, the internal door will be see through, so im going to lift off the main door during the day what do you`se reckon?
bigdees Posted April 21, 2009 Report Posted April 21, 2009 instead of painting the inside why dont you think about creosoting it that will also help to deter the creepie crawlies also i think it gives out a good smell in your loft
Guest Freebird Posted April 21, 2009 Report Posted April 21, 2009 As a general rule i dont like the inside of lofts being painted, however with the loft i have just bought for my young birds it was already very poorly painted inside so i had to redo it. It looks quite good for the original state it was in, but would never paint one by choice. Hi Vallance, why would you not paint? I've painted mine matt white ( not racing, just tumblers ) the only drawback is you really notice stains but it fairly brightens the interior up.
Cabin Boy Posted April 21, 2009 Report Posted April 21, 2009 Put some duramitex in the paint and this will seal it from the nasties or use creosote if you can still get it, the auld swears by it
Guest chrisss Posted April 21, 2009 Report Posted April 21, 2009 Hi Vallance, why would you not paint? I've painted mine matt white ( not racing, just tumblers ) the only drawback is you really notice stains but it fairly brightens the interior up. for me i was told never to paint the inside of the loft,in case the paint peeled, and the birds ate it
THE FIFER Posted April 21, 2009 Report Posted April 21, 2009 as said before use masonary paint , regarding not painting if its new wood the fumes from some can make your birds ill, masonary paint dries quick and has no smell, also fills in any cracks,
Guest Freebird Posted April 21, 2009 Report Posted April 21, 2009 as said before use masonary paint , regarding not painting if its new wood the fumes from some can make your birds ill, masonary paint dries quick and has no smell, also fills in any cracks, That's good to know as it was masonary paint I used. Certainly finishes it off nice but purely cosmetic and has taken a while to settle down ( regarding overall stains etc, if you know what I mean ).
chrisbonnie Posted April 21, 2009 Author Report Posted April 21, 2009 for me i was told never to paint the inside of the loft,in case the paint peeled, and the birds ate it that probably sounds right im insulating the shed, then putting 9mm marine ply on the inside, that should keep the creepies out, ill put pics up when im done, its my first attempt at a loft, well ,me and my dad, he had pigeons over 30 years ago, its going to be his hobby, but it seems intersting, so im giving him a dig out with the loft, and trying to find as much info from people in the know, like yourselves for him thanks for the replies
milecrosslofts Posted May 9, 2009 Report Posted May 9, 2009 my dad is building his first loft in 30 years, just wondering, is it of any benefit to paint the inside of the loft, just to brighten it up? he`s putting a small window in the roof, would that be enough? cheers its a personal option some people paint inside coz they like it to look nice mine are blue inside lol but it dont make any difference realy
Guest IB Posted May 9, 2009 Report Posted May 9, 2009 My current loft is a brick-built garage, walls are cement rendered. I did paint inside to seal it, and brighten the interior, but I used household emulsion left over from painting jobs in the house, on walls and timber, and it was finished months before my first pigeons were put in it. I agree with the paint flake thing. Have taken down all painted ornamental wooden fences in my garden because I couldn't stop the birds eating the flakes.
kev01293 Posted May 9, 2009 Report Posted May 9, 2009 hiya chris u should always use a bitumen primer (allow to dry) before laying the torch-on felt straight onto wood to make sure it bonds properly maybe youve laid the new torch-on felt straight onto the old felt so it may be ok but it might be an idea to check it after it rains im a roofer by trade so feel free to pm me if u need any advice good luck kev
chrisbonnie Posted May 12, 2009 Author Report Posted May 12, 2009 hiya chris u should always use a bitumen primer (allow to dry) before laying the torch-on felt straight onto wood to make sure it bonds properly maybe youve laid the new torch-on felt straight onto the old felt so it may be ok but it might be an idea to check it after it rains im a roofer by trade so feel free to pm me if u need any advice good luck kev cheers Kev yeah, it was a bitumen primer, just like the crappy old vinyl floor tile adhesive we used to use, i have a gas torch, and torched it on, not one of your big double blowers like you roofers have, but big enough for a 6x4 shed just built a removable aviary today, pretty nifty, we`re doing our best with the little space we have, you just have to make do i suppose, cheers for the replies
Roland Posted May 12, 2009 Report Posted May 12, 2009 Painting is good.... Kills any and every breathing thing it covers. Even painting different colours inside for nest boxes is often done... Another good Idea I think. Likewise outside. I don't paint my outsides because they are either Plastic cladding, or plastic vents. All interchanging to allow what tempreture / air circulation I deem needed. So yes Painting is good, and should be dne every year.
Guest Posted May 12, 2009 Report Posted May 12, 2009 We always seemed to have problem with birds when around new timber, was once told it was due to the chemicals in the wood being slowly released. So always sealed it somehow. Preferred white, as someone above said you can see stains, especially damp ones, so you can do something about it. Use to add duramitex, but just use a dip now, mixed about 1 in 10.
Guest asha Posted May 12, 2009 Report Posted May 12, 2009 Hi Chris,best to let the interior wood breath,this will tke bit of moisture up when atmospheres damp,and let it out when to hot,you can`t beat wood,brick block some stone,pulls in heat,and more important lets it out on colder nights,steading tempreture variations,but saying all that,you andyourold man will be foreever making alterations,and why not,good for you and the birds,always do alterations,inside or out while the birds watch you,keeps them and you intrested,they will even carry a few nails for you ,try it,you see if i`m wrong or not
THE FIFER Posted May 12, 2009 Report Posted May 12, 2009 use masonary paint, very good, dries quick and seals cracks etc also no smell,
kev01293 Posted May 20, 2009 Report Posted May 20, 2009 well chris it sounds like youve pretty much got your loft roof sorted the most important thing is to make sure all the joins on the felt are sealed tight and you can do that with a blow torch of any size it will just take you longer ( or so my missus tells me :) ;D ;D) anyway mate as i said b4 feel free to pm me if u have any probs all the best kev
weecunny Posted May 20, 2009 Report Posted May 20, 2009 my dad is building his first loft in 30 years, just wondering, is it of any benefit to paint the inside of the loft, just to brighten it up? he`s putting a small window in the roof, would that be enough?paint it white or fit windows. birds wont trap fast if they have to look into a dark loft mate cheers
cheeseman Posted May 20, 2009 Report Posted May 20, 2009 before the days of emulsion/masonary paint we used to use white/lime wash inside the lofts no lops then.
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