ETS & BOB WIRE POSITIONS

[Flyer]

Is the last picture with the bob wires after the ets pad. which is within the confines of the loft, complying with RPRA rules.

[pjc]

the 4th pic meets RPRA rules but would have to be pic 3 for WHPU

[chichichi]

at the min it does.. as long as the pad is within the confines of the loft the bobs can be after the pad.. but council might rule against it.. but time will tell.. wood craft have made them for 2 years with bobs after the pads..

 

what's the answer to this -  an open door fancier has a bird come back,  can he catch the bird if the doors are still open???

 

time will tell what happens,, but as the rule stands bobs after the pad are allowed..

 

best of luck

 

ant

[chichichi]

Phil I did have the WHPU rules on ets here,, nothing in it to say any different than RPRA.. can't find them now.. all difference was all pads to be sealed in place and numbered..

 

ant

[Guest southern and mason]

av got no bobs on myn

[Roland]

Within the confines of a loft can be 20 yards outside, or on an avairy! Not Confide, Nor confinded. The confines of a loft, like any thing else, is anything that is a Part of, or within the confines. Nothing ever said within! But within the confines.

Mine is inside after the Bob wires when  set it up. Othes in club are 50 / 50, some under the landing board, legal, and some not.

Best one Googles and Dictionary exactly what it means I guess.

[jacksafc]

That would be the alternative if the bobs at the back were ever ruled against, take them off altogether

[chichichi]

but if you take the bobs off the birds inside the loft could get out.. well mine could..

 

ant

[Roland]

That would be the alternative if the bobs at the back were ever ruled against, take them off altogether

 

Realism lol   ;D ;D

[pjc]

Phil I did have the WHPU rules on ets here,, nothing in it to say any different than RPRA.. can't find them now.. all difference was all pads to be sealed in place and numbered..

 

ant

 

As far as i'm aware WHPU the birds have to be confined in the loft which means they have to have gone through the wires.

I think its west country products, might be RV but they state on there adverts which trap meets WHPU rules.

[OLDYELLOW]

if no bobs on the front of pic four then bird could simply turn round and exit loft without entering loft

[Guest frank dooman]

whats the difference if the bird goes in the loft and then goes back out there is no rule about you have to keep a bird in for a length of time as long as it enters the loft is ok for me and i dont like the ets   i could trap in my stall trap and leave the door open to let it back out SO!!!!!

[fred smyth]

whats the difference if the bird goes in the loft and then goes back out there is no rule about you have to keep a bird in for a length of time as long as it enters the loft is ok for me and i dont like the ets   i could trap in my stall trap and leave the door open to let it back out SO!!!!!

 

yea but if someone has a clock and his bird goes in and out befour he gets rubber off u have an advantage over him ,

[jacksafc]

it could but a little seed placed in the tunnel will attract them far enough in to register, i usually find that once they enter the tunnel or trap hey dont turn back, i race widowhood so the hens are penned up, i have my bobs tied back on race days till most are home.  

[OLDYELLOW]

whats the difference if the bird goes in the loft and then goes back out there is no rule about you have to keep a bird in for a length of time as long as it enters the loft is ok for me and i dont like the ets   i could trap in my stall trap and leave the door open to let it back out SO!!!!!

 

well simple could keep your next bird from entering by flying round but suppose only one winner eh

[alex wight]

whats the difference if the bird goes in the loft and then goes back out there is no rule about you have to keep a bird in for a length of time as long as it enters the loft is ok for me and i dont like the ets   i could trap in my stall trap and leave the door open to let it back out SO!!!!!

 

spot on. theres a lot of confusion about what the birds position should be. it should have entered the loft to time in, full stop. Whether i can go back out isnt an issue. The only exception to the rules about pads inside the loft is sputniks, however if you think about it, the bird has to enter the sputnik to time in. its about time there was a define list of simple rules to indicate the positions, to stop all these arguments. imao

[Guest frank dooman]

 

yea but if someone has a clock and his bird goes in and out befour he gets rubber off u have an advantage over him ,

 

yes i agree but how many horror stories have we heard about ets missing birds iam against ets and allways have been but its in now as long as the PADS are within the loft that would do for me ive had all the stuff with dropping the rubber jaming the clock etc thats life its good to get excited thats what the doo,s are all about for me not a supermarket check out

[Guest frank dooman]

 

well simple could keep your next bird from entering by flying round but suppose only one winner eh

 

your right i dont do that but the point is if i wanted i could the same goes for this set up if the bird timmed and then went back out it could stop your pooler from timming so if the fancier doesnt want that then totaly confine it but its his decision as far as iam concerned

[steve]

which trap setup is used by flyers in the  nehu/unc

cheers steve

[jacksafc]

4 or similar, at least those i've seen.

[steve]

which trap setup is used by flyers in the  nehu/unc

cheers steve

[chichichi]

phil RV woodcraft have been stating for years it meets whpu rules.. all their traps have bobs after the pad.. I will check to see if I can find the rules..

 

ant

[david.j]

which trap setup is used by flyers in the  nehu/unc

cheers steve

 

think it would have to be no 3

[jacksafc]

I use the RV trap.

[pjc]

phil RV woodcraft have been stating for years it meets whpu rules.. all their traps have bobs after the pad.. I will check to see if I can find the rules..

 

ant

 

The one they produce for WHPU has bob wires first then pad, the others have wires after the pad which is why they qoute meets WHPU rules.