Just In Wont Be Reporting Any More Birds After This Bumf

[Guest james.malcolm.shaw]

SU08P1036 JUST IN FLOWN OUT

TO MUCH IFORMATION REQUIERED TO REPORT A BIRD WONT BE REPORTING ANY MORE

[Guest lenwadebob]

SU08P1036 JUST IN FLOWN OUT

TO MUCH IFORMATION REQUIERED TO REPORT A BIRD WONT BE REPORTING ANY MORE

 

Sorry to hear this. Have you tried reporting on line, it only takes a few moments

 

http://www.rpra.org/StrayPigeonReportingGuide/tabid/104/Default.aspx

[JohnQuinn]

SU08P1036 JUST IN FLOWN OUT

TO MUCH IFORMATION REQUIERED TO REPORT A BIRD WONT BE REPORTING ANY MORE

 

Don't let some annoying process to stand in your way of doing someone a good turn, it gives you more satisfaction when you put yourself out a little.

[Guest Owen]

I am sorry to hear you say that, but I certainly do not understand why you said it. I have no idea as to what information the Scotish Homing Union require. Perhaps they are over the top but you have a duty to report stray birds. We all have. This is not a decision you can morally make. First of all it would be wrong of any of us to ignore a bird that is lost and exhausted and as it is someone elses property we have no right to keep it.

Equally, the owners of reported birds have a reponsiblity to claim their property after someone has tried to help the bird. And in my view, anyone who fails in that responsiblity should be subject to disciplinary procedures by the approprate Union.

Of course you could deal with strays in an underhanded way and not admit you have seen them and dispose of them. I hope you would not do that because pigeons do not deserve that sort of treatment. After all they never asked to be raced. We imposed that on them.

With the greatest repect possible, please think again.

[Guest LOFTMAN12]

not the shu this site asked my name and added a funny code before i could report the bird never had to do this before my name is not necessary as my user name was enough before not interested any more will just report to shu will cost to get back

[Guest spin cycle]

IMO reporting strays is a waste of time. the vast majority don't want to know...the rest will offer to repatriate under sufferance...and you can guess what waits for that bird at home. majority of strays are not even wingstamped or its illegible. rpra are not enforcing wingstamping...as i've reported unwingstamped birds ( rubbered up) but you never hear of any action. i don't bother anymore...sorry rant over

[Guest bigda]

IMO reporting strays is a waste of time. the vast majority don't want to know...the rest will offer to repatriate under sufferance...and you can guess what waits for that bird at home. majority of strays are not even wingstamped or its illegible. rpra are not enforcing wingstamping...as i've reported unwingstamped birds ( rubbered up) but you never hear of any action. i don't bother anymore...sorry rant over

dont know how manny times this has been stated, to english or rpra members, the shu birds do not

and are not allowed wing stamps, the only time they are to be stamped is when they are young

provided they are not going to the national, as that can lead to cheating in hard races hope the fanciers in england dont adopt the idea because they aint stampted they are not wanted

back, as that is not the case to be told differant, that would only come from the guy that the bird belongs to, my self would not nap any ones bird i leave that to the owners

[Guest Owen]

I know people who rear very large numbers of young birds and send them to the races by the crateful. I also know that some of the poor little devils have got no chance from day one. They are often sent when they are ill and untrained and there are a lot that do not even want to leave the crates which are by now liberally coated with the spew that these sick birds leave behind them. Obviously they can end up anywhere, flat on the roads, your loft, my loft, anywhere.

And given the clowns that go in for this sort of thing, they really do not want to know about having them back. Why would they, because they know that these poor unfortunate birds are actually no good as racers. Besides it would cost a small fortune for them to send for them if a lot become reported.

Then there are the birds that people buy from the dealers who will tell them that the bird is certain breed and a long dead ancester has won goodness knows what. The pictures are painted and the fools are fooled, another lot of hopes dashed as these poor creatures are asked to do what they can not do. More strays and more excuses as to why they can not be sent for.

I reckon that it is about time that the Unions took their resposibilities seriously. They will talk about the need to improve the Sport's Image but allow members of the Public to be insulted and abused by our fellow Pigeon Racers without ever taking disciplinary action against the culprits. I'll bet that most of us have been told to "Neck it" or something like that, without the moron of the telephone even knowing if you are a member of the Public or not.

I think that we should report the strays and insist that the Owners send for them. And when they mess about and act in their selfish and arogant way, we should insist that the Union concerned takes action against them. If we do not do this we will be as bad as the idiots who are working hard to ruin the reputations of all of us. Not to mention the fact that setting up a pigeon loft in a back garden is becoming harder all the time because of the bad name associated with the sport in many places.

[Fair Play]

Is that not the job for the basket convenor to refuse any birds that looking sickly(it is in our club) and surely fellow fanciers would not allow that type of bird to be put in a basket alongside theirs

[Guest stb-]

SU08P1036 JUST IN FLOWN OUT

TO MUCH IFORMATION REQUIERED TO REPORT A BIRD WONT BE REPORTING ANY MORE

WHOT A STUPID STATMENT TO POST

[glenrandal]

have to agree mate if it was your bird would you not want it reported...........

[blue lad]

I have reported 2 birds on basics today & i reported them to rrpa no problem .One owner is realy pleased i got his bird. both on the boat to beach should be let go tommorow morning one has to go sunderland other mid borro.

[Guest Owen]

You are right when you say that Clubs should be checking on the condition of the birds being sent to races, and turning suspect birds away. However, these sick birds can and do get through. I have never understood why people think it is OK to send birds to races with corn in their crops, but they do. Surely everybody knows that birds with corn in them will normally sick it up, after all, that happens even on training flights. Obviously the sicked up corn is eaten by your birds and mine spreading all sorts of infections far and wide. Where untrained youngsters are concerned, I doubt if there is any way of stopping the practise. There is no way you could recognise them. People who do that are being very cruel because the transporters heat up and these poor birds can not hope to find a drinker. It is no wonder that they end up wondering, comfused all over the place. My question is, "What do the owers of these birds hope to gain by doing these things"? It is definately no way to win races.

[Guest pigeonguy147]

two weeks ago i got a badly injured y/b in reported it to the owner who only lived a couple of miles away he told me to bin it as i was going to be busy for the next few days i put it in q/tine section and was letting the wife feed and water the birds anyway after aweek or so i had a look at the bird it was fine and healthy so phoned the owner this morning and asked him to transfer the bird to me he said if its ok i want it back he will probably put it in the bin himself it really does put you of reporting strays

[DJWa]

two weeks ago i got a badly injured y/b in reported it to the owner who only lived a couple of miles away he told me to bin it as i was going to be busy for the next few days i put it in q/tine section and was letting the wife feed and water the birds anyway after aweek or so i had a look at the bird it was fine and healthy so phoned the owner this morning and asked him to transfer the bird to me he said if its ok i want it back he will probably put it in the bin himself it really does put you of reporting strays

 

very nice let you bring his bird bact to health

 

tell him when he comes round for it their is a vets bill waiting for him

my guess he will offer to transfer the bird to you

rather than pay any vets bills

[Guest spin cycle]

dont know how manny times this has been stated, to english or rpra members, the shu birds do not

and are not allowed wing stamps, the only time they are to be stamped is when they are young

provided they are not going to the national, as that can lead to cheating in hard races hope the fanciers in england dont adopt the idea because they aint stampted they are not wanted

back, as that is not the case to be told differant, that would only come from the guy that the bird belongs to, my self would not nap any ones bird i leave that to the owners

 

 

thats true...i've never had an 'shu' but 'nehu' don't wingstamp either (i think)...i was really talking about rpra rung birds. of course even these could be flying with orgs not requiring wingstamp. if an org doesn't require wingstamp can the fancier do so voluntarily ?

[Brumby]

su08p1036

 

danderhall rpc

sec. B. Kinnear

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[DOVEScot]

I bought a bird it had a gb life ring on one leg and the owners personal life ring on the other is this allowed in any other orgaisations???

[Guest BRYANBROCK]

WHOT A STUPID STATMENT TO POST

 

got to agree there

[JohnQuinn]

dont know how manny times this has been stated, to english or rpra members, the shu birds do not

and are not allowed wing stamps, the only time they are to be stamped is when they are young

provided they are not going to the national, as that can lead to cheating in hard races hope the fanciers in england dont adopt the idea because they aint stampted they are not wanted

back, as that is not the case to be told differant, that would only come from the guy that the bird belongs to, my self would not nap any ones bird i leave that to the owners

Thats nonsense! You are not allowed to wing stamp your PHONE NUMBER onto the birds, you are encouraged to stamp your club and fed names onto them, to help repatriate the bird if it gets lost.

[Guest lenwadebob]

Thats nonsense! You are not allowed to wing stamp your PHONE NUMBER onto the birds, you are encouraged to stamp your club and fed names onto them, to help repatriate the bird if it gets lost.

 

So you cant wing stamp them but are you allowed to put 'closed' address/tel no rings on them, or personal identification labels on ETS rings? If so then not allowing you to stamp birds with a PHONE NUMBER is also nonsense.

[Guest stb-]

thats true...i've never had an 'shu' but 'nehu' don't wingstamp either (i think)...i was really talking about rpra rung birds. of course even these could be flying with orgs not requiring wingstamp. if an org doesn't require wingstamp can the fancier do so voluntarily ?

i fly in rpra and shu feds one requires wing stamp the other does not allow it , bit of a pain in the butt to be honest

 

the same birds fly in both organisations

[just ask me]

how do u manage it stb with the wing stamps

[Guest stb-]

So you cant wing stamp them but are you allowed to put 'closed' address/tel no rings on them, or personal identification labels on ETS rings? If so then not allowing you to stamp birds with a PHONE NUMBER is also nonsense.

no bob they should not have name rings with fon numbers on them either only allowed a wing stamp with fedaeration on it for y b.s

 

to help identify at stray centre .

 

no personal details allowed on birds

[Guest bigda]

Thats nonsense! You are not allowed to wing stamp your PHONE NUMBER onto the birds, you are encouraged to stamp your club and fed names onto them, to help repatriate the bird if it gets lost.

i think you need to read the post again, and the rule book mr quin