starting again

[frank-123]

iam starting again next yb season what strain/seller would you buy from if you were starting from scratch

iam talking club racing 60miles /350 miles

[ashleyt]

M&D EVANS , vandenabelles , top class , threw and threw, theyve got a long waiting list , and are a bit dear aswell ,

[jimmy white]

WOOFF BROS    NEW OLLERTON     NOTTS

[Guest speckled]

Hi Bart,so ya looking for pigeons for the short to middle distance them.check ya local fancier,who have been winning at fed level,if not look in the BHW or RP,as the  end of the seasons racing is apon us & there are lots os sales about this time of year,so ya could pick up a bargain,or to . Think befoe ya bye.Speckled

[PIGEON_MAN]

I WOULD SUGGEST THAT IF YOU ARE BUYING  BIRDS TO RACE YOU MIGHT JUST AS WELL HAVE SOME FROM MASSARELLAS THEY WILL COST YOU A LOT LESS THAN BUYING FROM SOMEONE LIKE  M + D EVANS OR WOOLF BROTHERS AND YOU PROBABLE HAVE AS MUCH CHANCE OF FINISHING UP WITH A FEW GOOD ONES AT THE END OF THE SEASON AT A MUCH LOWER COST.IF YOU ARE LOOKING TO BUY BIRDS FOR STOCK BE VERY VERY CAREFULL BECAUSE ASK YOURSELF THIS WHO IN THEIR RIGHT MINDS WILL SELL YOU BIRDS THAT ARE BREEDING WINNERS UNLESS THEY ARE PACKING UP AND YOU CAN GET THEIR BREEDERS BEFORE ANYONE ELSE.

[carl]

If i was to start all over again i wouldnt buy birds for stock i would buy them to race then breed from them when they have proved themselfs.Get looking around your area for the fancier flying the best birds at the moment and buy from them,not too close to home as you want there best..

[Guest]

WOOFF BROS    NEW OLLERTON     NOTTS

 

what strain do they fly ?

[Guest]

tony /anne mardon without dout they are simpley the best just pure qaulity

[Guest slugmonkey]

I agree with Carl buy a couple of kits ( from diffrent breeders ) and race them then breed what you have left unless you have a lot of money and can afford to buy a set of proven breeders

 

DON'T worry about strain worry about winning!!!

[Guest]

Here I go again, lol, with the distances you are flying I would definately go for Van Reets

[westburylofts]

 

I would go for the Van-Reet's

or Van Loon's    for the distances that you have said.

 

this is only my veiw

 

RAY

[Guest]

Ray

 

Van loon's off who ?  

[westburylofts]

 

 

  OFF ME  LOL

 

  RAY

[westburylofts]

 

The best fancier you can find that is winning

now at the race points that you will be raceing with your own club / fed

 

ray

[Guest]

MAYBE GET A VAN SOMETHING AT THE PIGEONBASICS AUCTION RAY.

[westburylofts]

 

COULD DO WITH A NEW VAN  LOL

 

RAY

[jimmy white]

speight ,,,to answer your earlier question , the wooff bros , new ollerton , fly wildemeersh and van reets and a few buschearts, but have put up some great performances in the last 30 years, takes a bit of doing.

[Chatrace]

Aks around,maybe someone will give you a few YBs to start the season. Wish you lived close I could load your up with 20 real fast.

Good luck

[Guest WINGS 04]

i will give you 12 young birds thisw year bart just give me a pm and we will get rings sorted out

[T_T]

Bart,

         it's each to his own.  One mans drink is another mans poison.  I will only say that the best pigeons I own, have been GIVEN to me by friends.  I have tried many families.  You will always have different pigeons winning but for myself it has to be the Busschaerts.  I think the best family ever.  The Maurice Verheyes were another good all round family.    

[swilcox]

Hello Bart

 

I hope you dont mind me joining this discussion! I have not long restarted after selling my team at auction and i asked myself the same questions as you did! I looked at what i did right before and what didnt work for me!

 

I beleive the most important thing to me is choice, when i established my team before i visited Bert Hession from Blackpool, he simply put me in a section of 40 ybs and said choose your own, on that 1st visit i choose 2 cocks Champion Pied Producer and Champion White Eyes. Now before that day i would often have birds arrive in a box or would pick up the odd pigeon in an auction! Some have suggested contacting local fanciers but how many of them will let you go home with what you want!! Most will give you there cast offs, its human nature. Going back to Bert Hession if he had sent me 4 down in a box it probaly wouldnt have been that 4 and there were pigeons in that section that i didnt like.

 

So my advice would be go to a fancier or stud that will give you choice, take an experienced friend if needed but choose what you like and what you are comfortable working with because Pigeon Racing is a tough sport and as any tradesman you need to enjoy your tools that you craft.

 

Another thing pigeon families that won yesterday will still win tomorrow, dont pay though the noise for pigeons just because they are trendy, : so long as they are from a winning line and you like them they are worth your dedication!!!

 

Stuart Wilcox

[swilcox]

Where has Bart gone??????

[frank-123]

sorry stewart been working a lot thanks for the advice

bought a bird last year at blackpool cost £35 bred two very good birds for a friend

i dont think the price matters maybe luck plays a more important part

[jimmy white]

hi bart youll get good birds for breeding a team of ybs at a tenner each, or 12 for 100 pounds   pm mickieb    hes  packing in due to bad health

[frank-123]

thanks jimmy

i still have some old birds for breeding at my mothers house as iam moving the ybs

to my own address this season i sadly had to pass up wings offer of ybs as i go on holiday in march so going to pair the old birds that i have left in march before i go holiday should have a small team this season